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  • maxeernst

    Was ranting on twitter about this, but figured a better place for a discussion would be here.

    As a NYer who is passionate about DFS, I found this email I received from my Assemblymember quite upsetting.

    Obviously the email is poorly written and likely composed by an intern or something, but that isn’t the most upsetting part. The part that really bothers me is what seems to be a total lack of understanding of the current situation regarding the legality of DFS in NY on her part. She drops some concepts in there that are sort of “buzz words,” but she doesn’t seem to care whatsoever.

    My impression is that this woman is basically saying “I’m waiting to see what the AG says.” To me, she is basically shedding responsibility to take a stance on the issue. This is particularly troublesome given the fact that DK and FD reached a settlement with the AG that was specifically designed to pause litigation and pursue a legislative solution. What was the point of the settlement if legislators are waiting to see what the AG ultimately does anyway?

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  • kellykip

    “but we are unlikely to get ahead of the Attorney General in offering legislation.”

    Yep, nobody wants to stick their neck out there while our beloved AG is in full grandstanding mode. Refer to today’s Post, page 16 for more evidence of that re: sending out emails boasting about taking on Trump for the Trump University stuff, pointing out that his case was filed before Trump became the nominee. “And we’re not backing down now….”. Sounds a lot like ‘not on my watch’, doesn’t it? Seems pretty unusual considering Schneiderman is basically campaigning on a matter pending before his own office.

    Just shows you the mindset we’re dealing with here, unfortunately.

  • tasteitsucka

    At what point will you all accept the fact that DFS is gambling? It’s not even like Poker. It is like Blackjack. There is very little you can do to increase your chances of winning with the exception of entering as many lineups as possible. I know Rotogrinders has a vested interest in people believing it is a game of skill, but…

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    @maxeernst said...

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    Fixed

  • maxeernst

    @kellykip said...

    “but we are unlikely to get ahead of the Attorney General in offering legislation.”

    Yep, nobody wants to stick their neck out there while our beloved AG is in full grandstanding mode. Refer to today’s Post, page 16 for more evidence of that re: sending out emails boasting about taking on Trump for the Trump University stuff, pointing out that his case was filed before Trump became the nominee. “And we’re not backing down now….”. Sounds a lot like ‘not on my watch’, doesn’t it? Seems pretty unusual considering Schneiderman is basically campaigning on a matter pending before his own office.

    Just shows you the mindset we’re dealing with here, unfortunately.

    Agree the mindset is flawed. That being said, everyone still needs to reach out to their senators and representatives.

    I think the best thing I (as an individual) can do is write a long-form response to this woman and try and help her see the light so to speak.

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    @Cameron said...

    Fixed

    Thanks Cam

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    Apparently the the AG has given his okay to the Senate bill but offered a couple suggestions be added in the form of the amendment. I agree Max…certainly looks like they really don’t know what is going on.

  • depalma13

    @tasteitsucka said...

    At what point will you all accept the fact that DFS is gambling? It’s not even like Poker. It is like Blackjack. There is very little you can do to increase your chances of winning with the exception of entering as many lineups as possible. I know Rotogrinders has a vested interest in people believing it is a game of skill, but…

    DFS is like horse racing. Both are skill based gambling and there is plenty you can do in both that can increase your chances of winning.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    I would agree, that is not the most eliquate piece of writing I’ve ever seen and it does a poor job of conveying it’s message.

    That said, as someone who is rather adept at reading subtext, I did have a slightly different interpretation.
    What has been pointed out certainly could be valid, but I read it as your AssemblyMember does feel DFS is gambling and they support the AG.
    This may also explain the lack of clarity in the response, as she is trying to frame her response in a manner that doesn’t openly state she disagrees with a constituent who took the time to contact her.

  • adelosa

    Shafer, with the Coalition Against Gambling, says he worries the final resolution will come as part of the traditional end of session package of bills known as the “big ugly,” often approved in the middle of the night on the last day of the session.
    “What I fear is that they’ll jam it into some omnibus bill at the end,” said Shafer. “So that you’d have to vote for it to get some other bill that you want.”

    http://wamc.org/post/new-york-poised-legalize-daily-fantasy-sports-over-objections#stream/0

  • maxeernst

    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    I would agree, that is not the most eliquate piece of writing I’ve ever seen and it does a poor job of conveying it’s message.

    That said, as someone who is rather adept at reading subtext, I did have a slightly different interpretation.
    What has been pointed out certainly could be valid, but I read it as your AssemblyMember does feel DFS is gambling and they support the AG.
    This may also explain the lack of clarity in the response, as she is trying to frame her response in a manner that doesn’t openly state she disagrees with a constituent who took the time to contact her.

    Fundamental problem here is: Even if she thinks it is gambling, she is a legislator and has the ability to support / advocate for a change in the law that legalizes it and/or creates a carve-out.

    Just simply saying “well they seem to have marketed themselves in a way that looks like gambling” is an abdication of responsibility to seriously consider the issue and what her options are to affect it as a legislator.

  • maxeernst

    @adelosa said...

    Shafer, with the Coalition Against Gambling, says he worries the final resolution will come as part of the traditional end of session package of bills known as the “big ugly,” often approved in the middle of the night on the last day of the session.
    “What I fear is that they’ll jam it into some omnibus bill at the end,” said Shafer. “So that you’d have to vote for it to get some other bill that you want.”

    http://wamc.org/post/new-york-poised-legalize-daily-fantasy-sports-over-objections#stream/0

    I’d be fine with this. :)

  • EasyRawlins

    @tasteitsucka said...

    At what point will you all accept the fact that DFS is gambling? It’s not even like Poker. It is like Blackjack. There is very little you can do to increase your chances of winning with the exception of entering as many lineups as possible. I know Rotogrinders has a vested interest in people believing it is a game of skill, but…

    I bet you do just great on FD or DK……..

  • kevin8053

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    I’m not worrying too much about this response. That person clearly doesn’t even know that bills have been brought to the floor for a vote

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    @kevin8053 said...

    I’m not worrying too much about this response. That person clearly doesn’t even know that bills have been brought to the floor for a vote

    That doesn’t worry you? She’s an Assemblymember…

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