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  • Pats7914

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    Surprised to see nothing posted here yet. A judge in Albany today ruled fantasy sports gambling under NY law and unconstitutional. Not necessarily doomsday, but this seems like a potentially serious setback that puts the availability of games in NY at risk in both the short and long-run (plaintiff’s attorney claims DK and FD have to shut down NY access immediately).

    Just wanted to post a heads up as this seems like a potentially serious setback for DFS pending appeals, stays, etc

    EDIT: I guess Daniel Wallach has posted that if the state appeals a stay is automatic, so good chance the status quo isnt interrupted immediately if the state decides to appeal, but puts NY back in jeopardy in the long-term.

  • Messiah717

    Considering their nonsense with online poker I wouldn’t be surprised if New York folks have to end up going out of state to play.

  • yisman

    https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/judge-draftkings-fanduel-violate-ny-constitution/71-609287988

    The future of daily fantasy sports game in New York — including those run by companies like DraftKings and FanDuel — is in doubt after a judge ruled they violate the state constitution.

    Acting Supreme Court Justice Gerald Connolly ruled late Friday in favor of anti-gambling organizations that had challenged the state’s 2016 law allowing daily fantasy sports, deciding the games directly violate the gambling ban in the state constitution.

    Attorneys involved in the case received the ruling Monday.

    The immediate impact of the ruling wasn’t clear; a spokesman for Gov. Andrew Cuomo said it was still under review Monday evening.

    Connolly’s ruling was something of a split decision: While he declared the games unconstitutional, he also ruled state lawmakers were within their rights to take daily fantasy sports out of the state penal law, which penalizes illegal gambling.

    Neil Murray, an Albany-based attorney who represented the plaintiffs in the case, said he believes the ruling means DraftKings and FanDuel will have to shut down their games in New York, at least until the state appeals.

    “What the judge said is that the law that the Legislature passed purporting to legalize daily fantasy sports was unconstitutional and that daily fantasy sports is definitely gambling,” said Murray, who filed the lawsuit with help from Stop Predatory Gambling, a national anti-gambling group.

    There was no immediate comment from the state Gaming Commission, which regulates daily fantasy sports and was a defendant in the case.

  • jetsrule2012

    i thought this was over let us play dfs we pay taxes on our winning im about to move out of new york cant stand this people

  • Supersharpie

    Wow

    Aren’t they going to legalize sports gambling soon though?

  • mathewsmarner

    Out of state New Yorkers to play DFS

    Is that why on FanDuel I saw the best promotion for New Jersey Players????? You get what you give bonus.

    Where as for anyone else like myself it was $5 dollar bonus (amount deposited not withstanding)

  • scsa1998

    @mathewsmarner said...

    Out of state New Yorkers to play DFS

    Is that why on FanDuel I saw the best promotion for New Jersey Players????? You get what you give bonus.

    Where as for anyone else like myself it was $5 dollar bonus (amount deposited not withstanding)

    That was for the Sportsbook I think.

  • dolphinkick182

    @jetsrule2012 said...

    i thought this was over let us play dfs we pay taxes on our winning im about to move out of new york cant stand this people

    Problem is taxes on your winnings is a drop in the bucket compared the taxes they would collect from DFS sites on buy-ins. They just haven’t yet figured out a way to accurately track and collect. Though I do agree, sportsbooks are easier to control and states can audit (if necessary), so NY will make it their future. They along with my state (PA) are looking for a path to legalizing sports betting so they can collect on BETS made AND bets PAID. Licensing agreements just don’t cut it for the state once they see the money that is generated for the DFS sites. Even if the DFS sites seemingly piss it all away.

  • troveur

    NY DFS should be fine short term if Wallach is correct:

    Wallach, co-founding director of the University of New Hampshire School of Law’s Sports Wagering and Integrity Program, said he expects the state to quickly appeal Monday’s decision and that a stay will be granted to keep the DFS contests operating, uninterrupted. The lawyer said it’s likely the state’s highest court won’t be considering the case for another two to three years.

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  • ClownShoes

    My guess is worst case it’s short term until sports betting gets legalized and then it is all passed under same blanket.

    But seriously is this what NYS is worried about?

  • JoelHD82

    anti gambling groups hired a lawyer and challenged it as gambling under the nys constitution. bunch of do gooders like the anti alcohol group in ny. loooooosers lol. i bet its appealed and a sports betting law will be passed before it ever even made it past the high court anyhow. ny has to allow sports betting with nj next door and PA. it would just be silly having people cross from nyc across the river to nj and place bets easy lol.

  • AVivier

    @JoelHD82 said...

    anti gambling groups hired a lawyer and challenged it as gambling under the nys constitution. bunch of do gooders like the anti alcohol group in ny. loooooosers lol. i bet its appealed and a sports betting law will be passed before it ever even made it past the high court anyhow. ny has to allow sports betting with nj next door and PA. it would just be silly having people cross from nyc across the river to nj and place bets easy lol.

    It would be so annoying as someone in Buffalo to have to drive to Pennsylvania in our winters to be able to play DFS.

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  • yisman

    @JoelHD82 said...

    anti gambling groups hired a lawyer and challenged it as gambling under the nys constitution. bunch of do gooders like the anti alcohol group in ny. loooooosers lol. i bet its appealed and a sports betting law will be passed before it ever even made it past the high court anyhow. ny has to allow sports betting with nj next door and PA. it would just be silly having people cross from nyc across the river to nj and place bets easy lol.

    NYC has over 8 million people and for the DFS players there, it’s not so easy.

    A)The traffic is miserable.

    B)The tolls coming back in are a lot.

    It’s not like if you’re driving from Alabama to Mississippi or something.

    Now if you live outside the city near the border to NJ or PA that’s easier but the people outside the city are a minority in NY.

    To give you an idea, driving from Queens to north jersey is about 2 hours round trip and will set you back $40 or so between tolls and gas. I did this trip many times. I lived right by CitiField and I now live right by MetLife Stadium.

    The other option is public transit (train or bus or ferry) but that’s slower.

  • yisman

    @elementasrat said...

    Ughhhhhh this brings back painful memories of having to cross the GW bridge in the sweltering summer heat a couple years back to reserve my MLB entries. God, I hope everything stays put. Some people really have nothing better to do smh!

    I never did this but it would’ve been fun to try it once during the six months DFS was banned in 2016.

  • KindGuy

    @yisman said...

    I never did this but it would’ve been fun to try it once during the six months DFS was banned in 2016.

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  • loured

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    who the hell are these people, let them go to there gambling meetings and leave us alone. The judge will most likely deny the motion pending appeal by the sites.

  • emnj69

    I hate people that want to be the morality police -if you dont want to participate dont but dont tell other adults how to act-the irony is too many of these folks want to set the moral standard for others are usually doing lots of immoral things themselves-see spitzer in NY as a prime example

  • loured

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    its all about a lawsuit to have the money these people lost returned. They are saying that this was illegal from the get go and that the State violated its own laws to reap tax benefits,

  • WidumBoise

  • zline34

    I cannot believe they can sell scratch offs with the worst odds I have ever seen in any form of gambling, but want to ban the skilled game of dfs lol

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  • Simplebitz

    @ContrarianThinker said...

    Good news: It looks like a decision won’t be made until June 2019 at the earliest.

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