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  • FrancisBooth

    What a great way to start the weekend…….NOT!

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/12/11/judge-orders-draftkings-shut-down-new-york/p4B99SqAYbaTFzsU2HhZNK/story.html?p1=BGHeader_SmartBar_Breaking

    MOD NOTE: Do not make any post regarding “offshore dfs” or ways to circumvent any blocks put in place. All such posts will be deleted

  • Dmurphy104

    • Blogger of the Month

    @JackLotte said...

    Technically season long can be played for free (even though almost noone does) and money can be exchanged behind closed doors for lack of a better term. Nobody is going to play dfs for free.

    But people do play the free contests.

  • D4RTHPH4D4R

    IYM in NY

  • tprokopenko

    @Dmurphy104 said...

    But people do play the free contests.

    They play them to win cash prizes, not quite the same thing. For season long, many people play for free, with no prize (other than bragging rights).

  • D4RTHPH4D4R

    @tprokopenko said...

    They play them to win cash prizes, not quite the same thing. For season long, many people play for free, with no prize (other than bragging rights).

    lol?

  • Dmurphy104

    • Blogger of the Month

    Short term this sucks. But I would be optimistic after the hearings this week. It seems that most politicians don’t want to piss off constituents. If they push through legislation to make DFS legal, the the AG doesn’t have a leg to stand on. FD and DK need to fight for status quo while such legislation gets put in place.

  • Steroid

    In case it hasn’t been posted, here’s the ruling:

    http://www.gannett-cdn.com/experiments/usatoday/Sports/2015-12-11-Draftkings-new-york-injunction.pdf

    http://www.gannett-cdn.com/experiments/usatoday/Sports/2015-12-11-fanduel-new-york-injuction.pdf

  • JackLotte

    @Dmurphy104 said...

    But people do play the free contests.

    For practice maybe. I am saying if you remove all money from DFS, you would have a lot less players.

  • y2mulder

    @grux said...

    So you can pay high entry fees to play season long fantasy but can’t for daily fantasy? This seems very hypocritical. DK and FD should appeal and send this to a higher court. At the very least, cash prizes should be eliminated from season long fantasy leagues.

    I don’t get raked on my season long games. Titanic difference.

  • Richebee

    When do we riot?

  • slashtc

    @aka_the_goat said...

    The word gambling is relative. I could make an argument that almost anything is gambling, certainly anything transactional. I think what is more important is whether or not you think it’s a game of skill or chance. And to me, that isn’t even a question. All one needs to do is look at data to discover that skill is critical to long term success in DFS, even DB Schneiderbag admits 1% of the players are winning all the money.

    1% aren’t winning all the money solely because of skill. It has more to do with what they invest and what programs they have access to. There are exceptions to every rule, but this 1% are more skilled and thats the reason they win rhetoric has to stop.

  • km19shel

    @Dmurphy104 said...

    Short term this sucks. But I would be optimistic after the hearings this week. It seems that most politicians don’t want to piss off constituents. If they push through legislation to make DFS legal, the the AG doesn’t have a leg to stand on. FD and DK need to fight for status quo while such legislation gets put in place.

    NYS Assembly sat through a 5 hour hearing on DFS regulation this week. I’m sure some legislation will come out of this, but the question is when?

    Why couldn’t all of this just happen during MLB season? haha

  • mellofellowsu

    “The balancing of the equities are in favor of the NYAG and the State of New York due to their interest in protecting the public, particularly those with gambling addictions,” Mendez wrote

    This is so ignorant and makes me extremely suspicious of if Mendez had incentive to rule a certain way.

    If you want to say you ruled to block DFS because the letter of the law defines it as gambling, then fine. That’s all he had to say. But don’t hide behind some pretense that you’re protecting gambling addicts, acting as if your intentions are noble. That demonstrates either a complete misunderstanding of what addiction is, or that you believe the public is stupid enough to buy what you’re selling.

    You aren’t going to ever stop a gambling addict from going broke if his addiction is severe.

  • Joe1Coal

    @y2mulder said...

    I don’t get raked on my season long games. Titanic difference.

    It’s more of a game of luck than DFS is.

  • stoptheinsanity

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    @y2mulder said...

    I don’t get raked on my season long games. Titanic difference.

    Um – the NFBC does not operate season long contests for free – there are several others – just one of the better known

  • Dmurphy104

    • Blogger of the Month

    Also please note that this ruling wasn’t a final determination on the legality of DFS u set the current laws.

    If NY can pass clear laws legalizing DFS, then Schneiderman has nothing to argue whether he likes DFS or not. I I imagine the lobbyists are busy with that angle.

    In in Ohio and there will be a determination there as well. I Don’t hear anyone screaming for it to be shut down here..I thrink refation more likely..but there is a casino presence here, so you never know.

    I’d be interested in what Dan Gilbert has to say. He owns casinos and the Cavs.

  • Steroid

    “Fanduel and Draftkings have not established entitlement to a preliminary injunction, however, a granting or denial of a preliminary injunction does not constitute a determination of the ultimate issues.”

    This is not big news guys. The real action will be when it’s litigated on the ultimate issues —-> Chance or Skill

  • bbqnut

    IMO, FD and DK really need to put their focus on getting a bill passed. I don’t see them winning in court.

  • tommykarate

    @Steroid said...

    In case it hasn’t been posted, here’s the ruling:

    http://www.gannett-cdn.com/experiments/usatoday/Sports/2015-12-11-Draftkings-new-york-injunction.pdf

    http://www.gannett-cdn.com/experiments/usatoday/Sports/2015-12-11-fanduel-new-york-injuction.pdf

    nothing in here states “NY Residents”

    whats mentioned is NY “consumers”…..i dont see why they would just shut down accounts of people who live in NY. when i drive to my families house in NJ, i can enter games. on days when im stuck in NY, im screwed.

  • IronMonkey415

    I wonder if California is next, I can’t do a 9 to 5 job like I use to ….I JUST CAN’T AND I DON’T WANT TO.

  • KushBush

    DK and FD are trustworthy companies unlike full tilt and ultimate bet, this is also very different from poker obviously, i dont understand how they are allowed to shut dfs down and not regulate it but they regulate the lotto

    If the lotto is a regulated form of gambling then they have no right to end dfs yes you have to regulate but it seems to me if you end dfs and dont regulate it your being a hypocrite because the lotto exists

  • stoptheinsanity

    @JackLotte said...

    Technically season long can be played for free (even though almost noone does) and money can be exchanged behind closed doors for lack of a better term. Nobody is going to play dfs for free.

    Ummm…. You know people do play DFS free games right? In fact my sister and brother in law play free games against each other on FD every single week.

  • D4RTHPH4D4R

    @KushBush said...

    DK and FD are trustworthy companies

    thomas lawls

  • KushBush

    @D4RTHPH4D4R said...

    thomas lawls

    stop being a troll do you have any evidence that they are untrustworthy

    do you care to quote the rest of what i said?

    Do you understand what full tilt and ultimate bet did to their customers

    stop being a troll.

    Full tilt spent player funds and ultimate bet allowed cheating to occur on the site

  • y2mulder

    I would love to be positive here, but state regulation will never work. The fees and cut the government will want could only be offset by a minimum 30% rake. FD and DK need to come away as stand alone companies in all this.

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