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  • whodat2

    When: July 28-31 Golf starts on Wednesday 6:30pm EST.

    Where: Kasumigaseki Country Club | Japan

    Course: East Course | A par 71 playing at approximately 7400 yards

    Last Olympic Winner: Justin Rose

    Last Year’s Cut: No Cut

    Coverage: Golf Channel

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  • JimKronlund

    @BrianVT said...

    I’m not sure which of the Top 20 psychological biases you have that continues to draw you back to a point not related to the discussion, but no one ever thinks that taking a lower owned player will get them more points based solely on being a lower-owned player.

    It has been argued here many times that it is supposed to give you a better chance.
    And stop with the attempted insults. That has no place here.

  • BrianVT

    @JimKronlund said...

    It has been argued here many times that it is supposed to give you a better chance.
    And stop with the attempted insults. That has no place here.

    But it’s not a “better chance” because of more points. It’s leverage of the core of your lineups against the masses. Go back and read BIF and LFN’s explanations. No correlation of low-owned to higher-points, in deciding who to play before a tournament. If anything, it’s equal points to the alternative. And, I’m not talking about hindsight points; pre-tournament decisions.

  • JimKronlund

    @BrianVT said...

    No correlation of low-owned to higher-points,

    Bingo

  • BrianVT

    @JimKronlund said...

    Bingo

    So, stop making that your argument.

  • kbarnhill7523

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    I know I made fun of Guido Migliozzi earlier, but the more I start to build aggregate stat models around the venue, the more he is popping up for me.

    Same with Antoine Rozner. I’m bumping up my exposure to both and lowering others in that range.

    Two scrubs that are grading out well in the stats I am looking at are Mattias Schwab and Ryan Fox. I am going to be 25+% on both of these guys because I am trying to get as much exposure to the 9500+ range.

    No single entry for me this week, its all MME!

  • JimKronlund

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    I know I made fun of Guido Migliozzi earlier, but the more I start to build aggregate stat models around the venue, the more he is popping up for me.

    Same with Antoine Rozner. I’m bumping up my exposure to both and lowering others in that range.

    Two scrubs that are grading out well in the stats I am looking at are Mattias Schwab and Ryan Fox. I am going to be 25+% on both of these guys because I am trying to get as much exposure to the 9500+ range.

    No single entry for me this week, its all MME!

    I love Miggy. I am going to stay away from high salary and low salary. I want to try to take only those with reasonable win equity.

  • kdsdawg

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    I know I made fun of Guido Migliozzi earlier, but the more I start to build aggregate stat models around the venue, the more he is popping up for me.

    Same with Antoine Rozner. I’m bumping up my exposure to both and lowering others in that range.

    Two scrubs that are grading out well in the stats I am looking at are Mattias Schwab and Ryan Fox. I am going to be 25+% on both of these guys because I am trying to get as much exposure to the 9500+ range.

    No single entry for me this week, its all MME!

    Schwab
    Euro stats
    SG Total- 14th
    Scoring- 18th- 69.71
    SG Approach- 10
    SG Tee to Green- 6th
    GIR- 13th
    Driving Accuracy- 33rd

    I am all over Higgo and Migliozzi as well as Ryan Fox and Schwab.

    Also the KFT hoss Carl Yuan.

  • lfn1992

    I think I ended up with 60 LUs and 21 golfers. As mentioned salary makes it challenging. If you pair two studs you pretty much have to pick 1, probably 2, golfers under 7k at least. I have some LUs with 3.

  • JimKronlund

    I think players who have won at the biggest tournaments are the key here. The pressures going into the biggest tournaments creates pressures that “lesser” tournaments do not. Not every player excels in that type of situation. I think The Olympics would create equally this pressure if not more. Salary restrictions do not allow for many top picks per team without being forced to go real low, but I might take a succession of just 1 top salary per team and stay away from as low of salary/odds as much as it allows.
    When I look at the 2016 leaderboard it really supports that theory to me.
    https://golf.com/news/olympics-2016-final-mens-golf-scores-and-leaderboard/

  • Getty33

    @JimKronlund said...

    When I look at the 2016 leaderboard it really supports that theory to me.
    https://golf.com/news/olympics-2016-final-mens-golf-scores-and-leaderboard/

    It just occurred to me how surprisingly weak that field was. This year seems considerably stronger.

  • JimKronlund

    @Getty33 said...

    It just occurred to me how surprisingly weak that field was. This year seems considerably stronger.

    Would it be considered weak by that years standards? Or only because how it looks based on were those players are now compared to this field?
    Also I think we know much more about Euro and global players now then we did back in 2016.

    Admittedly I recall thinking it was a weak field back then but I did not know many euro or global players. Compared to a normal event it would be weak for sure.

  • kbarnhill7523

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    @JimKronlund said...

    Would it be considered weak by that years standards? Or only because how it looks based on were those players are now compared to this field?
    Also I think we know much more about Euro and global players now then we did back in 2016.

    Admittedly I recall thinking it was a weak field back then but I did not know many euro or global players. Compared to a normal event it would be weak for sure.

    Stenson won The Open in 2016. He had a terrific year.

  • JimKronlund

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    Stenson won The Open in 2016. He had a terrific year.

    He is another proven player I am waiting on to cycle near the top once again

  • lfn1992

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    Stenson won The Open in 2016. He had a terrific year.

    Morikawa won the Open two weeks ago…

  • mitchsnyderdfw

    @Getty33 said...

    It just occurred to me how surprisingly weak that field was. This year seems considerably stronger.

    Funny, back then a lot of the top players opted not to play because of health concerns.

  • BlueEdwards

    @mitchsnyderdfw said...

    Funny, back then a lot of the top players opted not to play because of health concerns.

    Zika!

  • kbarnhill7523

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    Ugh. I just accidentally deleted all my lineups from my optimizer.

    I meant to click “download” but clicked “delete”.

    STARTING OVER NOW

  • BlueEdwards

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    Ugh. I just accidentally deleted all my lineups from my optimizer.

    I meant to click “download” but clicked “delete”.

    STARTING OVER NOW

    You still have JT as the top play?

  • kbarnhill7523

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    @BlueEdwards said...

    You still have JT as the top play?

    Yeah, this just seems like an easier course that he can come in and dominate.

    He’s #2 in SG T2G, #3 in SG Approach, #4 in BoB%. He hasn’t played great since the PLAYERS but hasn’t played poorly either.

    Morikawa is 1st in a lot of the stats but is one of the WORST putters possible. He was 125th on Tour for the season and was 1st in the field at The Open. Admittedly, JT isn’t great SG Putting either but I think he should be the most expensive golfer in the field. He’s not so I think there is a lot of value there.

  • kdsdawg

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    Yeah, this just seems like an easier course that he can come in and dominate.

    He’s #2 in SG T2G, #3 in SG Approach, #4 in BoB%. He hasn’t played great since the PLAYERS but hasn’t played poorly either.

    Morikawa is 1st in a lot of the stats but is one of the WORST putters possible. He was 125th on Tour for the season and was 1st in the field at The Open. Admittedly, JT isn’t great SG Putting either but I think he should be the most expensive golfer in the field. He’s not so I think there is a lot of value there.

    I am starting to agree on Morikawa. I first thought that maybe he had found something in his putting stroke but I tend to think he caught lightening in a bottle and caught fire with his putter and will regress back.

  • byo34

    Rory said this course provides plenty of birdie opportunities – as long as you aren’t missing the fairways too bad.

    Higgo said water very much in play on the back 9.

    Reminds me of last weeks course, punishes you if you are wild OTT, but you can go low if you are in the short stuff.

    Thankfully it’s a no cut, so I am more than fine with going with a 6k guy or 2 because just one day of going low can put them in a great spot.

    Cant forget last Olympics, Kuchar doing his typical Kuchar things and went super low on Sunday to back door into a top finish, I feel like this course can provide that same opportunity, which is unfortunately – hard to predict who that guy will be this year!

    Excited either way and hope to see someone in here up top.

  • HunkerToe

    @byo34 said...

    Cant forget last Olympics, Kuchar doing his typical Kuchar things and went super low on Sunday to back door into a top finish, I feel like this course can provide that same opportunity, which is unfortunately – hard to predict who that guy will be this year!

    Kuchar getting the back door Bronze Medal was the most Kuchar thing ever.

    I’ll have a go at a random prediction – Paul Casey is this year’s Kuchar and takes the Bronze.

  • klf_is_gonna_rock_ya

    Need a golfer at $6900 to fill out last spot. Down to sabbatini and Ryan Fox. Thoughts?

  • Felixxberg

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    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    I know I made fun of Guido Migliozzi earlier, but the more I start to build aggregate stat models around the venue, the more he is popping up for me.

    Same with Antoine Rozner. I’m bumping up my exposure to both and lowering others in that range.

    Two scrubs that are grading out well in the stats I am looking at are Mattias Schwab and Ryan Fox. I am going to be 25+% on both of these guys because I am trying to get as much exposure to the 9500+ range.

    No single entry for me this week, its all MME!

    We’re much different this week, and given your recent win streak and how you have nailed pretty much every pick in the last few weeks (with the miracle Killa Keith pick last week), it scares me a lot. I might tweak my lineup heavily. I’m going with a single entry in a few contests. $235 total.

  • kdsdawg

    @klf_is_gonna_rock_ya said...

    Need a golfer at $6900 to fill out last spot. Down to sabbatini and Ryan Fox. Thoughts?

    Personally I have Fox, but below $7K I also have, Schwab, Zanotti (thanks to Kbarn), Norlander and Yuan

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