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  • Becks

    Can anyone recommend an NFL DFS site that’s NOT fanduel or draftkings?

  • Moszman

    Yahoo!

  • bigez952

    FantasyDraft is my favorite site outside the main ones since they have 2 flex spots so you have the option of playing up to 4 running backs. And the new Rake Free model is pretty sweet for the players benefit.

  • madmanjayWV

    Both of those are good options, but always watch out for —

    P.S. — Give DRAFT a whirl, perhaps as well……

  • Becks

    That’s why I’m looking else where – sharks

  • britdevine

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    I would say Yahoo or FantasyDraft would be ideal

  • Njsum1

    @Becks said...

    That’s why I’m looking else where – sharks

    Generally, anyone who plays MLB DFS in August is a decent to strong player. If they’re not, they’re probably playing for fun in the 10 or 25 cent games. You’re not going to avoid strong players anywhere. There aren’t people risking a lot of money anymore who aren’t good players.

    I don’t know about fantasy draft, yet on yahoo what you will avoid is mass multi entry players as they have a 10 lineup per contest limit. You’ll still be playing against strong competition, just not 150 lineups from strong competition. I think Yahoo still offers beginner games, and those are soft. Yet once you use them all up, you’ll be playing against good players.

  • Deadwalrus911

    I hear there are at least 3 new sites opening this year. If i hear more ill post more but all i have for now is fanvest wagering exchange

  • manBEAST

    Definately going to be hitting Yahoo and FantasyDraft with most of my volume…kind of sad this used to be the time of year when all the start ups arrived and there was free money to be had. This Fanvest seems to be taking the stock market approach, which has been done before by SportsTradex and last year theSCOREX so not too excited by that game type. Don’t get me wrong the more the merrier just seems to have been done before.

    Also saw there is a superdraft site that seems to be io based but looks similar to the snakedraft that Draft provides. Thats all I’ve heard of so far, if anyone else hears of any new start ups please share the intrigue, but as Brit said your best bet is FantasyDraft and Yahoo probably!

  • FantasyDraftSupport

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    @Becks said...

    Can anyone recommend an NFL DFS site that’s NOT fanduel or draftkings?

    Depends, do you hate paying rake? If you would rather have all 100% of your entry fees go to the prize pool and the house not take 16% of it, I can recommend somewhere for you …

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  • bigez952

    Is Fanball still a thing? I played some over there last year for NFL and it wasn’t too bad. The cash out was kind of a pain since they didn’t have many options which was my only negative for that site.

  • Becks

    Strong players, fine. People pooling their money and entering 500 lineups is ridiculous. It goes from a sport of skill to a sport of volume. It’s like playing the lottery when it hits a billion dollars because you’re going to cover all combinations. In my opinion, a “skill” based game should be 10 entries max for EVERY game but FD and DK won’t do it as it will drive all of the sharks off.

  • Becks

    Limit on entries?

  • BerkeleyBoss

    I love me some Yahoo DFS

  • SkateFiend

    Yahoo is probably the best overall DFS site. They will receive most of my action come NBA time. I almost feel like there’s no point in playing NBA DFS on DK, unless you’re a volume player.

  • DFSx42

    anyone playing at this point in the season is either very good or a total degenerate, all the casual players are either burnt out or broke by this point and just waiting to reload for football

    I’ve been seriously contemplating only offering high dollar h2hs at this point because the only ones taking small amounts now are probably not worth paying rake to play against

  • mogizzle

    My suggestion would be Yahoo. I’ve been paying DFS since 2011/12 and was fairly profitable in the earlier days playing on FD/DK but in the past 2-3 years i’ve moved all of my play to Yahoo for several reasons. 1) Unless you’re a MME shark or someone playing with a lottery ticket mindset then you have to consider rake if you want to be sustainable. FD/DK’s rake is at ridiculous levels. 2) All sites have sharks but the larger sites have the most in general and also a lot of lineup buyers so basically sharks by proxy. 3.) The payout structures for their GPPs are too top heavy so they can advertise large top prizes for the casual lottery ticket players.

    Yahoo’s rake is better than FD/DK by about 4-5% (don’t know exactly) but you can essentially play rake free on Yahoo if you’re smart. Practically everyday of the NBA and MLB season so far Yahoo has run a no rake tourney and sometimes even a negative rake tourney on holidays. Add on top of that their quickmatch h2h system where you can play rakefree h2h’s (there is a limit to volume and your opponent is chosen for you). Also, when I deposited years ago they had a deposit match up to $2000. So basically every slate im playing at a -4% rake. Finally they have entry limits (10 max usually but it depends on the size of the GPP) so you avoid the 500 entry MME issues. That isn’t to say that there are no sharks. I’ve seen the same names frequently in my quickmatches and in tourneys but it def makes it a more level playing field for someone who doesn’t want to spend a ton of time researching.

    Fantasydraft is also an intriguing option that I would recommend you check out as well

  • selorogacevo

    @mogizzle said...

    My suggestion would be Yahoo. I’ve been paying DFS since 2011/12 and was fairly profitable in the earlier days playing on FD/DK but in the past 2-3 years i’ve moved all of my play to Yahoo for several reasons. 1) Unless you’re a MME shark or someone playing with a lottery ticket mindset then you have to consider rake if you want to be sustainable. FD/DK’s rake is at ridiculous levels. 2) All sites have sharks but the larger sites have the most in general and also a lot of lineup buyers so basically sharks by proxy. 3.) The payout structures for their GPPs are too top heavy so they can advertise large top prizes for the casual lottery ticket players.

    Yahoo’s rake is better than FD/DK by about 4-5% (don’t know exactly) but you can essentially play rake free on Yahoo if you’re smart. Practically everyday of the NBA and MLB season so far Yahoo has run a no rake tourney and sometimes even a negative rake tourney on holidays. Add on top of that their quickmatch h2h system where you can play rakefree h2h’s (there is a limit to volume and your opponent is chosen for you). Also, when I deposited years ago they had a deposit match up to $2000. So basically every slate im playing at a -4% rake. Finally they have entry limits (10 max usually but it depends on the size of the GPP) so you avoid the 500 entry MME issues. That isn’t to say that there are no sharks. I’ve seen the same names frequently in my quickmatches and in tourneys but it def makes it a more level playing field for someone who doesn’t want to spend a ton of time researching.

    Fantasydraft is also an intriguing option that I would recommend you check out as well

    For all those reasons
    Fantasy Draft is now the best site
    Completely Rake Free (all contests )

  • Deadwalrus911

    Still wish there was something diff than these boring best ball and 100 lineup salary cap games

  • Becks

    Free rake yes but it’s simply replaced by a monthly subscription fee

  • mogizzle

    Fantasydraft is still a better deal than DK or FD in terms of what it works out to % wise. The only site, that I know of, where you can manage to play most nights rake free is Yahoo

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    @Becks said...

    Free rake yes but it’s simply replaced by a monthly subscription fee

    “Simply replaced by a subscription fee” is not accurate.

    1) No subscription needed for up to $100 in entry fees per month.
    2) For $5.99 a month a user can play up to $1,000 in entry fees. On other sites, this user will be charged $150 in rake on that $1,000. Compared to $5.99. Most users would prefer to pay $5.99 instead of $150. And that’s just on the first playthrough of the money!

    Here is a real example.

    Lets say a user plays $1,000 in NFL Week 1 and breaks exactly even. On FantasyDraft, that user pays a $5.99 subscription fee. On other sites, that user pays $150 in rake, which is 25x as much.
    Heading into Week 2, on FantasyDraft the user has $994. On other sites, $850.
    Lets say the user breaks exactly even again. This user still has $994 on FantasyDraft. This user pays 15% in rake on their $850 and is now down to $722.50.
    These numbers get even more exaggerated with each subsequent playthrough of the money. The math does not lie and it is really a no brainer which is better for the players!

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  • 1greatbuyz

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    I definitely see your point here but wouldn’t the playthrough of $994 the 2nd week increase your subscription fee?

  • bigez952

    @1greatbuyz said...

    I definitely see your point here but wouldn’t the playthrough of $994 the 2nd week increase your subscription fee?

    Yes, you would pay an additional $9 the 2nd week in that example to upgrade from the $5,99 to $14,99 plan which covers up to $3,000 in entries. The $14,99 spent in fees is still way less than what your paying for $2000 worth of entries at other sites.

    I think it is a good model and hopefully it catches on so other sites can take notice and lower their rake as well but I am guessing that is just wishful thinking.

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    @1greatbuyz said...

    I definitely see your point here but wouldn’t the playthrough of $994 the 2nd week increase your subscription fee?

    That is correct – These are the exact plans available. So – that playthrough in that example would push you to the next membership level and still represents a massive savings.

    FREE up to $100 in entry fees per month.
    $4.99 up to $1,000 in entry fees per month
    $14.99 up to $3,000 in entry fees per month
    $49.99 up to $10,000 in entry fees per month
    $99.99 up to $25,000 in entry fees per month
    $499.99 up to $100,000 in entry fees per month
    $999.99 unlimited entry fees.

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