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  • VinnyT87

    The game stops becoming a game of skill when Triple Overtimes happen. People are rewarded for bad picks. People who smartly fade Russell Westbrook in tournaments and cash games get cucked by bad players who decided to roster a player who was not a good play. Overtimes being counted turns a game of skill into gambling. You can use data, build models to make projections for player performance over a fixed length of time, but not this shit. This is bullshit.

  • wolfjb1

    The title of this thread makes my head hurt. What else can we ban in DFS to eliminate some of the subjectivity in sports? Basically we’d need to ban pretty much everything, right? Blowouts? High scoring games, Coors Field, domed stadiums, games in the cold, rain shortened baseball games, etc. If you can’t abide by the up-and-down nature of sports, go play a game with a finite number of outcomes (like, uh, Candyland?)

  • shawnzhan

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    • 2018 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

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    Better yet the actual outcomes of the games should be banned, all they do is add variance. I propose Vinny has to submit his player projections every slate after lock and then contest standings are determined by EV of lineups according to those projections.

  • KindGuy

    I know you guys are making fun of the OP, but he has a valid point.

    Why don’t you guys address the comparison with sports books who only count regulation? Because DFS isn’t gambling? In NBA, everyone researches for 48 minutes.

  • sochoice

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2017 FanDuel WFFC Champion

    @elementasrat said...

    I know you guys are making fun of the OP, but he has a valid point.

    Why don’t you guys address the comparison with sports books who only count regulation? Because DFS isn’t gambling? In NBA, everyone researches for 48 minutes.

    You are joking right? You don’t actually think the OP’s point is valid, do you? The reason no one, including myself, will address the sports book comparison is because it is a terrible comparison. We all know that basketball DFS stats are compiled until the game ends. In regulation or in 4 OT.

  • NoLimits0

    @shawnzhan said...

    Better yet the actual outcomes of the games should be banned, all they do is add variance. I propose Vinny has to submit his player projections every slate after lock and then contest standings are determined by EV of lineups according to those projections.

    To be fair that OT won you a crap load of money by having Westbrook. Like more than like a months worth of total before that day. You won probably more than almost anyone else in the industry that day.

    It also won me some too so can’t complain. I hope all the games in which I have players in go to OT.

  • bigez952

    DFS is a game of skill where if your’re really good at it over an extended period of time you will be profitable. However on a slate by slate basis there is a lot of luck involved (most call it variance). It is impossible to take away the luck aspect of DFS but triple OT games, freak injuries, and other random events don’t happen everyday so there is no point to change the rules to eliminate these things. Just call it bad variance and move onto the next day and if your really good at NBA DFS and never make what you call “Bad Picks” your going to be just fine over the course of the entire season. No one can win 100% of the time but if your winning 55-60% of the time your doing very well.

  • TurkishDelight

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    I hope for Vinny’s sake that an undocumented immigrant didn’t take down the GPP that night with RWB in his lineup

  • NoLimits0

    @TurkishDelight said...

    I hope for Vinny’s sake that an undocumented immigrant didn’t take down the GPP that night with RWB in his lineup

    Looks like Vinny will be carefully looking into shawnzhan seeing he pretty much dominated GPPs that night from a max entry standpoint (5 entries in the top 21 in the Triple Threat). Also walkoff9 (who posts here) might be vetted too since he got 2nd in the 100k with 4 guys in that triple OT game.

    Anyways the whole point is since stats are still kept in OT so should the DK points.

  • yisman

    @Blahaaron said...

    I’m curious about NHL and Playoffs overtime. I didn’t do draft kings that much for money last year so I didn’t pay attention much but I imagine for picking a goalie you could get a lot more points if you pick a game that’s likely to go into OT . Might that have been a reason for you to pick certain players?

    Yes, but you can’t predict which games go to OT.

    It’s pure dumb luck.

    If you do manage to land on a game that goes to multiple overtimes and stack it, you hit the jackpot.

    Hockey you can generate saves and shots and OT is much more likely in the NHL than the NBA or NFL due to NHL games averaging less than 6 goals per game.

    No one handicaps for overtime because you can’t.

  • horacegrant31

    @elementasrat said...

    If the sites say beforehand that they’ll only count regulation (48 minutes), people can’t complain.

    Just like how they currently count OT and nobody made a thread complaining?

  • timusbr

    @shawnzhan said...

    Better yet the actual outcomes of the games should be banned, all they do is add variance. I propose Vinny has to submit his player projections every slate after lock and then contest standings are determined by EV of lineups according to those projections.

    LOL, Ya this, no more winners and losers, we give DK money they take 22% and depending on your stakes….you get a participation trophy. Nobody gets mad, nobody gets hurt.

    Damn, I wish they did that when I played jr soccer. (NOT)

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