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  • mberkowi

    • 2018 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    I woke up this morning to a pleasant surprise that my account balance on 1 site was larger then expected. Looked at my history and the site paid out a small contest as if I had finished 1st even though I finished top 15. About a $400 difference. They’ve since corrected the mistake and my balance is where it should be.

    Ethically, I feel that my account is where it should be so shouldn’t worry about it and move on. But, isn’t the sites responsibility to make sure all payouts are accurate? Part of me thinks once the site pays out a contest, it’s final, it’s not my fault they made an error and I should consider pursuing the difference. I mean what if I entered $400 worth of contests this morning. What do you think?

  • imsogone

    The world doesn’t work like that.

  • Putz

    @mberkowi said...

    I woke up this morning to a pleasant surprise that my account balance on 1 site was larger then expected. Looked at my history and the site paid out a small contest as if I had finished 1st even though I finished top 15. About a $400 difference. They’ve since corrected the mistake and my balance is where it should be.

    Ethically, I feel that my account is where it should be so shouldn’t worry about it and move on. But, isn’t the sites responsibility to make sure all payouts are accurate? Part of me thinks once the site pays out a contest, it’s final, it’s not my fault they made an error and I should consider pursuing the difference. I mean what if I entered $400 worth of contests this morning. What do you think?

    So if the cashier at your local Pizza joint hands you change, but accidentally includes an extra $20, I guess that means you get to keep it, even though they tried to take it back before you left?

  • JBigg23

    Well all sites are engineered, remember that. Whatever the data says according to their stat processor is what they can rely on. They pay for those services. Of course errors can and will happen.

  • crazypaul

    If the money wasn’t yours to begin with, then it was & is never yours.

  • ebsteelers

    actual question: lets say the poster didnt know they werent entitled to that extra money (wasnt following along the night before) or whatever, entered 400 dollars worth of contest this morning with money that wasnt theirs, and now has less than 400 in their account anyway

    , what does the site do then? just eat the lost, or withdrawal the poster from contest since they didnt start yet anyway?

  • einars

    @imsogone said...

    The world doesn’t work like that.

    this^^ there was a guy a couple years ago whose bank mistakenly deposited 100k into his bank account. he discovered the error and went and blew it all at a casino….a month later is was in jail for the theft

  • mberkowi

    • 2018 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    Fair enough. This is the first time I had ever seen an incorrect payout, short or over and had not done anything beyond contemplating if I should do anything.

  • Zieg30

    • 787

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @einars said...

    this^^ there was a guy a couple years ago whose bank mistakenly deposited 100k into his bank account. he discovered the error and went and blew it all at a casino….a month later is was in jail for the theft

    Yup. The law does not allow us to keep other peoples’ or companies’ money, even if they hand it to us accidentally.

    The bank example is a good one. There was a kid who did the same thing recently and is now going to have to pay it all back over time. The bank employee who accidentally put the funds into his account instead of an older gentlemen of the same name was fired.

  • Zieg30

    • 787

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @ebsteelers said...

    actual question: lets say the poster didnt know they werent entitled to that extra money (wasnt following along the night before) or whatever, entered 400 dollars worth of contest this morning with money that wasnt theirs, and now has less than 400 in their account anyway

    , what does the site do then? just eat the lost, or withdrawal the poster from contest since they didnt start yet anyway?

    It’d be a shitty situation, but my guess is that the site would debit the poster’s account for 400 dollars. Again, if it was the poster’s last 400 dollars in their account, he’d have to be negligent or willfully ignorant to not realize he had 400 dollars he didn’t earn. If the poster had much more than 400 dollars in his account, the site would merely remove 400 dollars from his account, regardless of any losses earlier that day.

  • mke272

    @einars said...

    this^^ there was a guy a couple years ago whose bank mistakenly deposited 100k into his bank account. he discovered the error and went and blew it all at a casino….a month later is was in jail for the theft

    Crazy.

    I think the sites would have just taken the guy out of the games if he had registered for the games. Not a big deal really.

  • Simba19

    You ethically know it’s wrong or you wouldn’t of posted….my bet is if you email the website and told them what happened it would probably let you keep some if not all of it for pointing out the error to them so they can correct it and make sure it doesn’t happen again

    Since this happened this morning it seems like what was the resolution maybe you did what I said? Let us know

  • madmanjayWV

    @mberkowi said...

    I woke up this morning to a pleasant surprise that my account balance on 1 site was larger then expected. Looked at my history and the site paid out a small contest as if I had finished 1st even though I finished top 15. About a $400 difference. They’ve since corrected the mistake and my balance is where it should be.

    Ethically, I feel that my account is where it should be so shouldn’t worry about it and move on. But, isn’t the sites responsibility to make sure all payouts are accurate? Part of me thinks once the site pays out a contest, it’s final, it’s not my fault they made an error and I should consider pursuing the difference. I mean what if I entered $400 worth of contests this morning. What do you think?

    U sound like the kind of guy who gets an extra $20 or something from a BANK TELLER at the drive thru…..then u know that she gave u too much..and u r like screw it —- who cares if she made a mistake and she’s going to have to come up with the difference when her drawer is short!

  • bluesjack

    If you were shorted $400 would you say well OK it’s a mistake I’m going to just eat the loss?
    Of course not

  • JBigg23

    What site?

  • MRCOOKONUTS

    What site was this?

  • Matthew

    StarsDraft Rep

    This happened on our site. It was an issue with select users on our opening MLB day.

    A few users had a duplication of their pitcher points when calculating their total points between the shift from contest close to reconciliation. Their points in the standings showed a 2x value for their pitcher, which was different than when summing their individual roster.

    Our contest payment audits caught this issue. We corrected the payouts via a manual re-run of our reconciliation process.

    We then fixed the 2x pitcher display issue for the affected users, thus having all the contests in history show the correct scoring and correct payouts.

    This was not an issue with a stat correction. All payouts were completed based on the actual outcome of the contests.

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