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  • peace4all

    I always tell people that DFS isn’t gambling and isn’t a bad thing to put time into. DFS actually is one of the few things I have found that has helped me stop my gambling addiction. I used to go to the casino 5 times a week. I would work and get stuck going to the casino and blow a lot of it that very night. It was a vicious cycle that I was stuck in. I couldn’t find anything better to do at nights then go play blackjack. Then I focused my attention on DFS and found it more fun, less money, and a greater chance to win big money. DFS is a perfect tool and practice to get people to stop gambling. Its a rush, its a way to win big, and you can use your talents to get better at it which is engaging. I haven’t been to the casino in 18 months and instead of losing $60 a night I am getting all I can handle playing $3 mlb, nba and the millionaire maker football tournaments. DFS is pure skill, I consider it the same as the stock market. The more research you do, the more you are knowledgeable the better you are at stocks and DFS. If you have time to improve you can improve. Its a craft not a gamble. I think DFS is a great thing for people for its fun and you can risk a quarter if you want, not hundreds at the craps table. If somebody asked me a way to stop addictions to gambling, drugs, other things I would have to suggest DFS as a quality product to replace those things. Far from a negative like a lot of people say.

  • tprokopenko

    Funny stuff. I like how you took an exaggerated stance to make fun of the people who refuse to admit (or understand) that DFS is a form of gambling.

  • bstreich9

    @tprokopenko said...

    Funny stuff. I like how you took an exaggerated stance to make fun of the people who refuse to admit (or understand) that DFS is a form of gambling.

    Wrong

  • CNTDFS

    If it wasnt gambling then whoever had the highest projected model every day would win every single time. It is not a science, you can not predict with concrete results what another human is going to do when you have zero influence in the outcome. Add to that all of the other variables that are endless that you have no control over. If you still think its not gambling (albeit sometimes with an edge) then you are delusional.

  • SoccerPwincess

    I’m all for DFS and think it’s great fun, but let’s not try and fool ourselves in thinking it’s not gambling. Because it most certainly is gambling.

  • jessedio

    DFS is clearly gambling and very addictive.

  • mellofellowsu

    DFS is a form of gambling, but so what? There’s blackjack and then there’s roulette. All gambling is not the same. Some involve skill while others don’t. You shouldn’t feel bad about the fact that some element of chance exists in DFS. You’re much better off if you are skilled at it.

  • Jameson12

    Plain and simple it is skillful gambling

  • btwice80

    On the seventh day the Lord said DFS is gambling, and it is good.

  • Heterodox

    @btwice80 said...

    On the seventh day the Lord said DFS is gambling, and it is good.

    On the eighth day, people who don’t understand semantics still argued about it

  • osuryanf

    It is most clearly a form of gambling. Gambling involves taking a ‘risk’ for a desired result. There’s definitely a risk involved with DFS, no matter how skillful you are or how much research you do.

    Doesn’t mean it’s not great or fun or anything like that, but it’s clearly a form of gambling.

  • Lathum

    Glad you found a cheaper alternative, but you are still a gambling addict, you just fill that need through a different mechanism.

  • LegiaWwa

    If the OP really has a gambling addiction, you better be awfully careful with your DFS play.

  • EadesScience

    Hi..My name is Ricky and I am a DFSOLIC. I have now taken the 1st step by admitting that I have a problem.

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    @peace4all said...

    If somebody asked me a way to stop addictions to gambling, drugs, other things I would have to suggest DFS as a quality product to replace those things.

    And this would be horrible advice. You wouldn’t tell a gambling addict who loved playing poker to try blackjack instead!

    DFS is unquestionably gambling, but damn is it fun.

  • csandbizzle

    The problem is not the association with gambling. The problem is the stigma around gambling in general.

    I am so sick of the double talk of “the government should interfere as little as possible in my life” followed directly by “Please some one think of the children I can’t bear to see them exposed to gambling and recreational drugs”…“Here little Johnny take this regulated meth so you can pay attention in school because your an awful child who needs medicine to conform”

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    I think you have to be careful about projecting. Your addictive nature is not indicative of everyone’s addictive nature. I guarantee there are people who have had DFS be a self-destructive force in their life.

    That said, I am very much like you.
    I won’t get into all the details, but I have an addictive personality and have had issues gambling. Where win or lose you’re always chasing….it’s in your every thought…and you’re using logic such as, “Well I lost my $200 deposit, but if I just deposit $200 more I’ll bet that on x, it will win and then I’ll have the initial deposit to cash out plus money to play with…That sort of thing.
    Yet when I play DFS I have been able to be completely responsible and stick to strict bankroll management. As you were getting at, I feel like I’m in control…When I lose there’s something I could have done different and I can improve. I get upset when I lose, and close loses that feel like bad beats hurt, but again, I’m usually just mad at myself and it’s more or less gone when I start working through the next day’s slate.

    Which I suppose all of this is just a long way of saying, both scenarios can be true.

  • pal

    Cute post. Be sure to be as shrill as possible when you tell people DFS is not gambling.

  • Messiah717

    Ignorance is pretty much spelled out in the OP’s thread title.

  • DomTwan

    @Messiah717 said...

    Ignorance is pretty much spelled out in the OP’s thread title.

    “in ignorance”

    LOLZ

  • Messiah717

    It’s a like a recovering alcoholic telling you he curbed the habit by drinking at home instead of going to his usual bar.

  • oilydave

    I’m a Drunk, Alcoholics go to meetings……..

  • Heterodox

    @Messiah717 said...

    It’s a like a recovering alcoholic telling you he curbed the habit by drinking at home instead of going to his usual bar.

    It’s nothing like that. Are you even reading? Look at TheRyanFlaherty’s post. There are many in the poker world who say similar things about that game, that poker, with its structure and its skill component, help them control their gambling addictions. The problem with poker is that many of them had to go into the lion’s den to keep playing it. To me, that’s a personal thing. Not every addict is the same. Of course there are some whose problems will be exacerbated by any gambling type activity.

    There are two things going on in this thread. One is the old “skill vs gambling” debate, which is tired, settled, and pointless. Skill does not preclude gambling, or vice versa.

    The other is someone sharing a personal experience. When he says “I always tell people that DFS isn’t gambling,” you know what he means. Its the language of the old debate, but he’s not trying to have that debate, he’s just saying DFS can be a healthier alternative to more destructive forms of gambling. I see no reason not to take him at his word that it has helped him. Doesn’t mean it will be that way for everyone.

    I also think that medical science, as well as society as a whole, is bad at understanding what addiction even is, never mind how to treat it. So people who want to jump in and act like they have this certainty about things are just off.

  • Lathum

    He is basically saying DFS cured his gambling addiction, and can do the same for others, and that just isn’t true, he’s just getting his fix another way.

  • Messiah717

    It’s absolutely ridiculous advice for somebody who might be suffering from a gambling addiction. DFS is gambling any way you slice it. Stating you cured your gambling addiction by gambling in another way is ridiculous.

  • Heterodox

    @Lathum said...

    He is basically saying DFS cured his gambling addiction, and can do the same for others, and that just isn’t true, he’s just getting his fix another way.

    How do you know it isn’t true?

    I repeat, medical science, as well as society as a whole, is bad at understanding what addiction even is, never mind how to treat it. So people who want to jump in and act like they have this certainty about things are just off.

    I take personal testimonials like peace4all’s and TheRyanFlaherty’s very seriously. I’ve known a few different types of addicts, and not one of them was helped by the prescribed methods for treatment, or fit neatly into the defined categories of addiction or addictive behavior. This is just a subject we’ve been bad at dealing with as a society, and none of us really knows anything for sure.

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