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  • bozzburg

    Hello All,

    I wanted to get some opinions here on player placement and slates.

    Do you guys ever kick yourselves in the ass for being up in the top percentile in a GPP and not having a couple of players in late games to sustain placing or rising up further?

    Or does it matter to the point of really going out of your way to choose 1 or 2 players even though you don’t necessarily like the late games?

    I have been on both ends of the spectrum and find it does matter, but when I have experimented with it, I have lost and won both ways.

    For example last night before the 10:30 NBA games hit, I was in 65th place in a 10,000 entry contest and ended up dropping to 258th place by the end of the the contest because of the 2 10:30pm games. This reduced my payout to 20.00 instead of 50.

  • Epignosis

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    Your “payout” was never $50, and for that reason, it was never “reduced:” You have zero winnings until all the games are completed.

    If you get passed by people who have players in the latest games, it’s because they built higher scoring lineups than you did, and not because they picked people playing in the latest games.

    The mindset that promulgates the myth that you “need a late night hammer” stems from the same fallacious thinking that leads people to blindly stack the first games of a slate.

  • Guizzy

    Choose the players you think will score highest on the night irrelevant of what time their game kicks off.

  • bozzburg

    @Epignosis said...

    Your “payout” was never $50, and for that reason, it was never “reduced:” You have zero winnings until all the games are completed.

    If you get passed by people who have players in the latest games, it’s because they built higher scoring lineups than you did, and not because they picked people playing in the latest games.

    The mindset that promulgates the myth that you “need a late night hammer” stems from the same fallacious thinking that leads people to blindly stack the first games of a slate.

    Understandable. I was thinking exactly what you said, I just wanted to get others thoughts on it. I know payouts aren’t final until end and made official.

  • Epignosis

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    @Guizzy said...

    Choose the players you think will score highest on the night irrelevant of what time their game kicks off.

    Precisely this. A golfer loses because he performed worse than his competition, not because he teed off first.

  • Jvanspro

    Don’t worry about game time. Build your best lineup regardless or start time.

  • MotownGreek

    @Epignosis said...

    Precisely this. A golfer loses because he performed worse than his competition, not because he teed off first.

    Technically, you’re right. But when it comes to golf DFS, weather is a huge factor. Earlier or later tee times can result in poorer play because of factors outside the golfers contorl. Just wanted to throw that in there…doesn’t really relate to the rest of this thread though!

  • Epignosis

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    @MotownGreek said...

    Technically, you’re right. But when it comes to golf DFS, weather is a huge factor. Earlier or later tee times can result in poorer play because of factors outside the golfers contorl. Just wanted to throw that in there…doesn’t really relate to the rest of this thread though!

    As soon as I posted that, I said to myself, “Someone is going to come in and comment on the wind and weather.”

  • Morley

    Well it’s been beaten to death that you were never actually in the place you were led to believe you were in. I don’t disagree nor do I feel the need to elaborate.

    Having said that, the mind is a crazy thing and for some people it can be gut wrenching being shown the victory then having it taken away.

    Furthermore, pretty much every game is going to have at least a few good options. I recommend for your own sanity to use your late game favorites as your building blocks or just have later game players win tie breakers when you feel both players are otherwise equal.

  • clrockny24

    This seems to be a big debate. Some people think it doesn’t matter if you don’t have any late players, Some people do think it matters. I think it’s important to at least have a few in the late games, sometimes I feel like I should have at least some pieces from the late games. I don’t want to see my lineup looking good around 10 pm, only to have it lose because players in the late games went nuts.

  • fathalpert

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    @clrockny24 said...

    This seems to be a big debate. Some people think it doesn’t matter if you don’t have any late players, Some people do think it matters. I think it’s important to at least have a few in the late games, sometimes I feel like I should have at least some pieces from the late games. I don’t want to see my lineup looking good around 10 pm, only to have it lose because players in the late games went nuts.

    I don’t think there’s a need to force in players in the late games just for the sake of doing it. I think the reason there’s merit to playing guys in the late games is because the west coast teams have some of the best offenses in the league or play at the fastest pace (ex: Kings, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, etc). Hypothetically, if the Grizzlies played in the late games every night, I don’t think we’d be trying to jam in players from the Grizzlies simply because they played later in the day.

  • PigskinaBlanket

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    From a mathematical perspective it is irrelevant, although if late swap then there is value to the flexibility. However, there is certainly “sweat” value in having the late night hammer. while we all want to be profitable, we are infatuated with the sweat. so making it more enjoyable is important to many

  • EadesScience

    I like playing the night game slate only. I don’t do much better at it, but it does not rush me to drive 90 mph to get home after work and try and make changes to my LUs.

  • shockermandan

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    @PigskinaBlanket said...

    From a mathematical perspective it is irrelevant

    +1 to this.

  • jgAllDay

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    I love having players late. Sometimes it’s awesome. Other nights like Warriors blowing out the Lakers, not so awesome. Might make sense to save it for the nights where you love the late games to stay close or have a low owned player that you love.

  • clrockny24

    sorry to bump an old thread, but I think my line last night was a prime example of why start time can have a huge effect on your winnings.

    here’s the story, I played a dime time and the free promo game on dk. I won $1.20 between the two. At one point I was winning 55 dollars! in case you’re wondering: here’s the lineup I had. scored 309.

    fultz
    beal
    isaac
    A Gordon
    Vuc
    ish
    osman
    randle

    pretty good lineup, but once I saw all the money I was winning but all the players had started early, I knew that line would fall. At least I still cashed

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