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  • Riley

    RG Co-Founder

    Hey guys,

    We are making some changes to data collection and criteria for our Rankings as an interim solution to our rankings feeds being temporarily disabled on Fanduel and DraftKings as outlined by this post.

    Whereas before we were getting data feeds from our partners, we are now collecting publicly available data from the lobbies of the big two sites using a dedicated team of employees/interns. We are making sure to collect this data without violating the terms of service of either site (i.e. using a manual process instead of using scripts to collect data).

    Because this is a labor-intensive process and because we are only working with Tournaments in the lobbies, we are now only counting Tournaments and Satellites with $10,000 prize pools and a minimum of 10 players. 50/50s, multipliers, and Heads Up games will not be included in the Rankings going forward. We will be moving to these criteria on all sites, not just Fanduel and DraftKings.

    We started this process several weeks ago when our data feeds were pulled and now have a process of importing this data into our database, so over the next several days, you will start to see recent results for FD and DK added to your profile!

    We still consider this a temporary/interim change. Fanduel and DraftKings have both told us they want to support the RotoGrinders rankings once they have more clarity and more time to review their policies. We will continue to work with them and may return to a more comprehensive rankings system in the future.

    With this change in data collection, we also have plans to introduce several new Ranking lists broken down by average buy-in level, so that smaller-level players can rank themselves against players that play at similar levels. Keep an eye out for these. We think they will be a big hit!

  • donkosaurus

    • 536

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2019 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • x3

      2018 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    Heads up the results for the Sunday Game Changer on DK has it listed as a $1.00 buyin.

  • theoddsmaker

    I think there is just a tad too much “where the hell are my results??” discussion going on right now. The main point of the post is that they are going to have to manually start gathering the data. I translate that as, ok wow that’s a massive undertaking that will take quite a bit of time to make sure to get everything right and make it possible going forward without creating too much hassle.

    In the meantime though I’d really like some type of insight as to why a site like FantasyAces feed isn’t still being used even though it is likely still coming in without the need to manually scrape everything? It was my understanding that FD and DK proactively went out of their way to prevent access to their results feed. I was just wondering as to why a site like Aces has to be negatively effected by this since now their results (by taking the $10k+ prize pool) are essentially all but wiped out.

    Felt like this move by the big 2 gave the smaller guys a chance to give people a reason to try their sites out (i.e. if you care about RG rankings and know all your results will be applied from there that may be a legit reason to play there more). Just seems like the smaller guys are negatively effected by a decision the big 2 made which doesn’t sit well with me.

    Again, I could be completely wrong on this…and probably am which is why I would just appreciate anyone chiming in on this just so I can at least get my facts straight or maybe I brought up an angle about handling the new rankings in a light you may have missed on. So pleeeeese can someone enlighten me a bit?

  • hendry

    @theoddsmaker said...

    Felt like this move by the big 2 gave the smaller guys a chance to give people a reason to try their sites out (i.e. if you care about RG rankings and know all your results will be applied from there that may be a legit reason to play there more). Just seems like the smaller guys are negatively effected by a decision the big 2 made which doesn’t sit well with me.

    +1

  • dchapell

  • CaptainKirk12

    • x2

      2016 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    • 2016 FanDuel NFL Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Any idea when the rankings will be up to date? Seems like very few of my results have been added.

  • theoddsmaker

    @CaptainKirk12 said...

    Any idea when the rankings will be up to date? Seems like very few of my results have been added.

    Seriously dude? Not sure why I even bothered typing all that out above haha

  • chronoxiong

    Any updates yet? I want to see how I stack up now after getting some big wins in NFL and NBA recently. I know I should’ve climbed up the ranks. I miss the rankings. :(

  • KRD227

    They have only updated DraftKings basketball for some reason. Fanduel basketball hasn’t been updated since opening night lol.

  • teachmehowtocutty

    They reset all of my points for nba. Not that i care but it looks like im brand new to mna. Might post some h2h action and get some fish to bite.

  • Olhausen

    @KRD227 said...

    They have only updated DraftKings basketball for some reason. Fanduel basketball hasn’t been updated since opening night lol.

    I don’t think the NHL for fan duel is updating either. I have my Dk results but no fan duel results showing up. I’m still not ranked in NHL at all despite many high finishes including Two top 30 finishes in the sniper. I really really miss the old rankings.

  • Ross

    FanDuel rankings are starting to be uploaded (manually) now, but they are quite a bit behind.

  • Olhausen

    @RRT said...

    FanDuel rankings are starting to be uploaded (manually) now, but there are quite a bit behind.

    Thank you for the info.

  • Olhausen

    My overall rankings for NBA and NHL showed up today. Thank you RG staff members for all the extra work you have put into the rankings while the Dk and FD feeds are blocked.

  • cctravis

  • coninefan

    Are draftpot/fantasyhub results going to be counted? I don’t play at FD or DK much but have taken down several major GPPs at the other sites over the past 6 weeks and am just curious…

  • KRD227

    I’m not even showing up on NBA rankings because I play NBA at Fanduel…will Fanduel NBA ever be added to the rankings? Draftkings seems to be updated quite often…its obviously an advantage ranking wise to play on Draftkings I guess. Its just crazy that I’ve won roughly 15k on Fanduel in NBA this season and I have no NBA ranking

  • jimfred82

    • Blogger of the Month

    Hate to beat a dead horse here, but I have yet to receive any scores from FD. DK is updating quite nicely, but FD still hasn’t shown up. Any advice, mods?

  • smutpeddlers

    Supporter sloooooooowwwwwww…… Will it take this long all year or its just because your backdating everything?

  • cctravis

    My rankings have not been updated since Nov 18th. Play mostly on Fanduel. I think Fanduel imports have stopped almost completely.

  • Ross

    FD results are 4-5 weeks behind.
    DK results are 10-14 days behind.

  • crazypaul

    @RRT said...

    FD results are 4-5 weeks behind.
    DK results are 10-14 days behind.

    I play FD NBA every night, yet only have 3 results listed for the entire season. So you must be more than 4-5 weeks behind…

  • dude_abides7

    I am not gonna add another “why is it taking so long” post to this thread. I know why it takes so long. They are manually entering the contests. This is like cutting your lawn with a pair of hair clippers as supposed to using the lawnmower. Evidently its is the only option afforded to RG at this time. So we deal.

    That said, I am curious to know when these “tiered” rankings will be part of the visible display on RG? If you look to the bottom of Riley’s original post you will see mention of this. However, I have seen no evidence to date that this breakdown has occurred.

    Can someone from the RG side give us an update? Once again, if this is 1 month, 12 months out, so be it. Just looking for an update on the ETA of this segmented ranking system.

  • lucky0309

    Are you guys looking for any worker bees to help? I’m sure you could find plenty of cheap/free labor to assist in the updating?

  • jimfred82

    • Blogger of the Month

    @dude_abides7 said...

    I am not gonna add another “why is it taking so long” post to this thread. I know why it takes so long. They are manually entering the contests. This is like cutting your lawn with a pair of hair clippers as supposed to using the lawnmower. Evidently its is the only option afforded to RG at this time. So we deal.

    That said, I am curious to know when these “tiered” rankings will be part of the visible display on RG? If you look to the bottom of Riley’s original post you will see mention of this. However, I have seen no evidence to date that this breakdown has occurred.

    Can someone from the RG side give us an update? Once again, if this is 1 month, 12 months out, so be it. Just looking for an update on the ETA of this segmented ranking system.

    Have you ever seen people using clippers on their lawn? There’s a really nice old man in our neighborhood and I’ll see him about once a week basically laying in his yard, trimming the grass around his sidewalk with scissors. Makes my body hurt just thinking about it and the dude’s like 80.

  • dude_abides7

    @jimfred82 said...

    Have you ever seen people using clippers on their lawn? There’s a really nice old man in our neighborhood and I’ll see him about once a week basically laying in his yard, trimming the grass around his sidewalk with scissors. Makes my body hurt just thinking about it and the dude’s like 80.

    LOL. No, I haven’t. I couldn’t imagine an old-timer doing this. But then again, old habits die hard.

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