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  • EadesScience

    Wow! It looks like Saahil is going in a direction involving a long-term commitment to the DFS community. Take a look at the latest Forbes article.

    Link to Forbes Article.

  • mrchuffy

    Draftkings needs a new CEO, Jason Robbins continues to make terrible buisiness decisions. Him and shahil are going to kill DFS.

  • Cpjttogether

    Lol. I think you might be saahil widumboise. But i think ski carib is Pepsi and kid perfect is daniel negranue . So i could be wrong.

  • WidumBoise

    @Cpjttogether said...

    Lol. I think you might be saahil widumboise. But i think ski carib is Pepsi and kid perfect is daniel negranue . So i could be wrong.

    Saahil is my idol.

    I strive to be more contrarian than him each, and every waking day.

  • thedude404

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    @EadesScience said...

    This was a smart business decision in my opinion

    Based on what?

  • thedude404

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    @Cpjttogether said...

    People have so much passion about dfs. people get so upset when they lose and feel like things are not fair. I dont really know what is going on. I just want a fair chance to compete and know what it is. Roto grinders lets us talk about it so thats a good sign. Turn a light on it all. If something isnt fair lets fix it ,so we all can enjoy dfs long term.

    You do realize people broke the TOS of Fanduel and Draftkings and pocketed millions and nothing was ever done about it, right? How exactly is that fair?

  • Cpjttogether

    What is tos? Something was done i think,people got mad they lost and lawyers sued. now they are making changes and improvements like raising the rake and charging premium fees.

  • Roma315

    Free advertisement lol

  • deactivated51600

    @Heterodox said...

    I’m as negative and suspicious as anyone

    “No pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars or sailed to an uncharted land or opened a new heaven to the human spirit.” -Helen Keller

    Man, waiting for the day you become more positive. :-) This is intended as compliment, not critique.

  • Heterodox

    @smonger19 said...

    I don’t see Saahil as the bad guy in this, I think it is Robins making a move I can’t figure out.

    Also, in the article linked I didn’t see “former”, maybe it was in another article, but maybe he quit playing. I checked my contests tonight and didn’t see him (although I have tonight are single or 3-max entries). We can only hope, because if people like him or not, he is very good.

    I could have sworn it said “former” when I read it on Twitter. It doesn’t now, and it’s not included in the corrections, so maybe I imagined it, but I really could have sworn it said that. I zoomed in on it and tried to remember the last time I saw his name in a contest, and wondered if it was just a dig meant to imply that his edge has diminished. Regardless, I think it’s reasonable to look at this and think he has bigger plans in mind. I want to emphasize the importance of the specter of legalized sports betting here. When poker players were looking for “the next big thing”, it was DFS. For DFS players, it’s sports betting. And if you’ve followed the histories of any of these phenomena, you want to be in on the “land-grab” phase, not playing catch up, and not be relegated to being merely a sharp player, at least not if you’re ambitious. Like Seth and Sol setting up shop in Deadwood, getting the prime real-estate before the big guys caught on and moved in, literally selling pick-axes to miners.

    As far as Robins making a move we can’t figure out, has it occurred to anyone that he knows what his future is, and that it might not be with DK? At the very least, I think any legal sports betting market would be bigger than DFS, DFS would just be a segment of that larger market. And if your business is selling data, you don’t even have to worry about the kind of artificial barriers that exist in the legal online poker industry, where the market is broken up by state, or dealing with regulators and parochial, state-level politicians. It actually seems like a no-brainer to jump on board with someone who has proven his smarts and ambition…I need to stop now, I’m starting to feel like a toadie. I just feel like people need to grasp the bigger picture here.

  • Chris87

    @EadesScience said...

    Wow! It looks like Saahil is going in a direction involving a long-term commitment to the DFS community. Take a look at the latest Forbes article.

    Wait, so I’m supposed to believe that someone who posted something as obviously tout-ish as this doesn’t work for QL, even though his Twitter avatar just happens to be the QL logo? What?

  • Heterodox

    @whoisjohngalt said...

    “No pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars or sailed to an uncharted land or opened a new heaven to the human spirit.” -Helen Keller

    Man, waiting for the day you become more positive. :-) This is intended as compliment, not critique.

    jeez, man, you realize it’s only a slice of me you see here, right? I do appreciate the concern.

    For what it’s worth, I tend to think of myself as a macro optimist, micro pessimist, if that means anything to you.

  • deactivated51600

    @Heterodox said...

    jeez, man, you realize it’s only a slice of me you see here, right? I do appreciate the concern.

    For what it’s worth, I tend to think of myself as a macro optimist, micro pessimist, if that means anything to you.

    :-) It does actually and thank you. Happy 4/20!

  • Cpjttogether

    I have a bad habit of being pessimistic also. you guys are lucky my grandmother dont post.

  • Heterodox

    @whoisjohngalt said...

    Happy 4/20!

    To you as well, though this 4/20 is darkened by the specter of Trumps reactionary minions rolling back what we’ve gained these last few years. MA doesn’t even have a store yet, and already legalization is threatened. Here’s to hoping that in the internet age, people are too informed to fall for another round of reefer madness.

  • KindGuy

    Looks like and Saahil and Jason came back to their senses:

    https://twitter.com/saahilsud/status/855172696602181632

  • jimmyrad

    @elementasrat said...

    Looks like and Saahil and Jason came back to their senses:

    https://twitter.com/saahilsud/status/855172696602181632

    Shortest long-term commitment ever..

    LOL

  • deactivated51600

    @Heterodox said...

    I could have sworn it said “former” when I read it on Twitter.

    They frequently reference him as ‘Formerly Maxdalury’ .. likely where the confusion came.

  • yisman

    why did he change his name from maxdalury?

    I remember seeing that name in every contest

    I never got an e-mail from DK offering a free trial to this, by the way

  • Dirt_Lavert

    @elementasrat said...

    Looks like and Saahil and Jason came back to their senses:

    https://twitter.com/saahilsud/status/855172696602181632

    Saahil‏Verified account @saahilsud 4h4 hours ago

    Replying to saahilsud rotoqlapp

    We are hopeful that this will resolve any concerns of a conflict of interest. This was poorly handled situation by us.

    At least they realized it ^^^

  • Cpjttogether

    oh they changed there mind because of conflict of interest now? your welcome. I don’t understand why nobody ever hires me.

  • deactivated66527

    @Dirt_Lavert said...

    Saahil‏Verified account @saahilsud 4h4 hours ago

    Replying to saahilsud rotoqlapp

    We are hopeful that this will resolve any concerns of a conflict of interest. This was poorly handled situation by us.

    At least they realized it ^^^

    Just reading about this situation now. It’s amazing how such smart people can be so ignorant when it comes to basic business ethics. Or just be cocky enough to think they can take or avoid any obvious backlash that would come their way because of a deal like this.

  • Heterodox

    “I benefited from similar support when co-founding DraftKings and I believe strongly in paying back this generosity”

    I don’t know why people in this world of start ups and finance feel the need to talk this way. It’s not generosity, it’s investment, with the expectation of at least the possibility of financial gain in exchange for it. Such a cloistered world that nobody ever calls them on this kind of bullshit, apparently.

    Also, none of this makes sense. You’re telling me they didn’t anticipate a backlash? I can buy Robins being completely clueless about the general mood and culture of his user base, that’s hardly a stretch, but not Saahil, not the guy who has been the subject of so much scrutiny and suspicion and general resentment. No way he just “handled this poorly.” He used Robins for publicity, Robins must have gotten pissed and backed out. That’s the only way it makes sense.

  • Cpjttogether

    Cpjt made them change there minds.

  • deactivated51600

    Maybe if DK’s CEO has all that extra dough and wants to toss some around he could reinvest it back into DK and improve their WOAT customer service. Like, now I know this’ll sound crazy, maybe a telephone system that accepts incoming calls like most companies.. and then, even more craziness, maybe staff a few decent customer service reps to take those calls. Hmm.. and then maybe instead of cheaping out on FPPs, improve that a little. For example, I play QA every day. Put 12.50-25.00 in action every day minimum, usually more. I get ZERO fpps for my play. He seems more interested in going out and putting effort into other peoples’ companies before optimizing his own.

    Confucious say, “Man who chases two rabbits catches none.”

  • Messiah717

    Robbins should’ve known better from the start. Everyone involved is just slimy as can be.

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