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  • FatalError

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    Hey All,
    We’ve got our salaries up earlier than usual this week for the Week 5 Millionaire Maker. You can start working on drafting your million dollar team now!

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  • jlowery73

    2012 DDC Main Event Champion

    • 2014 FAFC Finalist

    • x3

      2015 FACFC Finalist

    Yes, that’s what it is going to take.

  • winsome

    It’s their prerogative to adjust pricing as they see fit but this really hurts the integrity of the contests and is extremely manipulative of the current player pool. I really don’t think the pricing being softened will cause more than a marginal number of new players to join who wouldn’t have had they kept their algo humming. If a player is selecting his team, the marketing has already worked and I doubt that a significant % of players would simply quit if they couldn’t build an all star roster. I’d say they’re simply trying to diminish the (perceived) “edge” that current players have and make it a lottery. Might as well just make it a pick em and remove salaries altogether.

  • deleted1017

    If the pricing is so easy, then all of you will easily win.

  • dbsports2240

    @Pitch12 said...

    If the pricing is so easy, then all of you will easily win.

    It’s actually just the opposite. It will be harder for someone who knows what they’re doing to win because the prices are so soft.

    On the contrary though, I doubt that a rook will think to look at minimum prices for khiry or chris ivory, so advantage to the thread!

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @Pitch12 said...

    If the pricing is so easy, then all of you will easily win.

    Yep , 90,000 way tie for 1st place , lol

  • rotokevin

    2014 RG Bowling Co-Champion, CPA & DFS Tax Guru

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    Can you believe THIS GUY is min price? Absurd.

  • bowens1984

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • RG Season Champion: NBA

    @rotokevin said...

    Can you believe THIS GUY is min price? Absurd.

    Was in the same suite as Orton and the blonde in bottom right for a Coldplay concert after his rookie year, the only song he knew was a Johnny Cash cover and he bummed a dip off my buddy.

    We then got into an argument because it was right before the NFL draft and I asked him what he thought of Vernon Davis to which Orton had no idea who that was and said he didnt pay attention to that stuff and he didnt appreciate when I told him that it was his job to pay attention.

    Good times.

  • jtwfantasy

    When everyone is super, no one is.

  • jecarl2

    I don’t understand the soft pricing argument. You are going to need at least 4x to win this thing. There are not that many Qbs that can hit 4X this week. Unfortunately Rivers is way too cheap and just sticks out IMO.

    This thing was posted last week so its not going to reflect anything that happened yesterday.

  • The1WhoKnocks

    @winsome said...

    It’s their prerogative to adjust pricing as they see fit but this really hurts the integrity of the contests and is extremely manipulative of the current player pool. I really don’t think the pricing being softened will cause more than a marginal number of new players to join who wouldn’t have had they kept their algo humming. If a player is selecting his team, the marketing has already worked and I doubt that a significant % of players would simply quit if they couldn’t build an all star roster. I’d say they’re simply trying to diminish the (perceived) “edge” that current players have and make it a lottery. Might as well just make it a pick em and remove salaries altogether.

    I don’t think soft prices make new players join. Soft prices increase multi-entry which is exactly what DK wants (and needs) to reduce overlay in this game.

    It’s a lot easier to pump out various permutations of the 10 WRs you are targeting when salaries are 10-20% softer which is exactly what DK is trying to entice the regs and stlcards of the world to do.

  • dwc1421

    @The1WhoKnocks said...

    I don’t think soft prices make new players join. Soft prices increase multi-entry which is exactly what DK wants (and needs) to reduce overlay in this game.

    It’s a lot easier to pump out various permutations of the 10 WRs you are targeting when salaries are 10-20% softer which is exactly what DK is trying to entice the regs and stlcards of the world to do.

    The payout structure isn’t optimum for someone to put hundreds of entries into this tournament. Too top heavy

  • Hallison

    winsome wins thread.

    So with DK playing with the pricing, top heavy payout % & high rake. It only makes sense to enter if you expect ~40-45K entries.

  • tprokopenko

    @jecarl2 said...

    I don’t understand the soft pricing argument. You are going to need at least 4x to win this thing. There are not that many Qbs that can hit 4X this week. Unfortunately Rivers is way too cheap and just sticks out IMO.

    This thing was posted last week so its not going to reflect anything that happened yesterday.

    It’s only been up for registration since last week. The salaries weren’t actually posted until last night.

  • Cal

    RG CoFounder & Admin

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    @Hallison said...

    winsome wins thread.

    So with DK playing with the pricing, top heavy payout % & high rake. It only makes sense to enter if you expect ~40-45K entries.

    It makes sense to play in this tournament if you want to take an extremely affordable shot at winning $1,000,000. Everyone I’m talking to is expecting at least some degree of overlay, so rake shouldn’t be a factor. This is obviously not a bankroll building tournament. If you stick to low variance bankroll building then avoid this like the plague no matter how big the overlay. Tournament players are going to have a field day with this, though.

  • tgowen

    • Blogger of the Month

    @rotokevin said...

    Can you believe THIS GUY is min price? Absurd.

    I quit reading after this one. My research is done.

  • jecarl2

    @tprokopenko said...

    It’s only been up for registration since last week. The salaries weren’t actually posted until last night.

    My bad tpro, I saw it in the lobby and assumed the prices were set ahead of time.

  • BeepImaJeep

    • 2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • x7

      2015 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    It’s an interesting decision. I think bad pricing creates a worse product (more luck based, less satisfying), but I can appreciate it’s merits.

    I’d be interested to know it’s effect on filling on large contests though. Any ideas? My hypothesis is great ratio of sharks-fish, as fish don’t need a reason to multi-entry and sharks can dump entries faster.

  • db730

    RotoGrinders Media Director

    • 2016 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • 2016 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    One thing that is overlooked is the cash game effect. Sure this is a VERY big tournament but should it really dictate the kind of play on the rest of the site for the weekend? There are still millions of dollars of other games being played and I agree with Jay about this kind of salary manipulation clearly watering down the skill component of the game.

  • sethayates

    @jecarl2 said...

    I don’t understand the soft pricing argument. You are going to need at least 4x to win this thing. There are not that many Qbs that can hit 4X this week. Unfortunately Rivers is way too cheap and just sticks out IMO.

    I guess I’m in the minority but I just don’t see the “soft pricing” everyone is talking about. Just about any player you click on is priced at about 3x value. For example Khiry Robinson is $3000 and averages 7.6. Rivers is $7000 and averages 22. The list goes on and on. There are obviously some outliers like LeSean McCoy being $7800 and averaging 10.4.

    It really just seems like they threw the algo out the door and priced most of the players within 5% or so of 3x their average. It is still going to take 4X to win this thing. I’m perfectly happy with a pick em that pays out $1,000,000 to first.

  • The1WhoKnocks

    @woopdeedoo said...

    It’s an interesting decision. I think bad pricing creates a worse product (more luck based, less satisfying), but I can appreciate it’s merits.

    I’d be interested to know it’s effect on filling on large contests though. Any ideas? My hypothesis is great ratio of sharks-fish, as fish don’t need a reason to multi-entry and sharks can dump entries faster.

    Softer salaries = more luck = reduced beatability of game = increased likelihood fish win = better for DK

  • First

    I kinda like the more relax pricing, I feel like I can go alot of different ways with a team with out having to be locked into the same value plays as the rest of the herd.

  • adnoble

    Got my QB for the weekend.

    Orton it is!

  • iconfantasyJoe

    @sethayates said...

    I guess I’m in the minority but I just don’t see the “soft pricing” everyone is talking about. Just about any player you click on is priced at about 3x value. For example Khiry Robinson is $3000 and averages 7.6. Rivers is $7000 and averages 22. The list goes on and on. There are obviously some outliers like LeSean McCoy being $7800 and averaging 10.4.

    It really just seems like they threw the algo out the door and priced most of the players within 5% or so of 3x their average. It is still going to take 4X to win this thing. I’m perfectly happy with a pick em that pays out $1,000,000 to first.

    The problem isn’t just that Rivers is 7K. It’s that he is so much better than the players around him that it causes a big pricing discrepancy and makes players who are familiar with where he should be priced lose confidence. Also, I am not sure how much money people are going to be throwing at it, knowing they just lost their edge.

    Sure it makes it easier to make a lineup, but now I only plan on taking 1 shot bc the skill has been completely wiped out.

  • GordonHayward20

    @dwc1421 said...

    The payout structure isn’t optimum for someone to put hundreds of entries into this tournament. Too top heavy

    I’ve said it beforeand will again now. Someone will top 3-400 entries. These big pros are all going to swap pieces of themselves in case one of them binks it.

    I pray pray pray its someone that has 1 entry and withdraws all the money because there is 0 doubt in my mind, if I bink top 5. All that money is coming out.

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    Always a complaint about something. Those that don’t like the pricing just simply don’t have to play. They aren’t forced. We all know the pricing is soft. Nothing we can do about it. Now we just have to make the personal choice to give it a shot or not.

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