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  • VinnyT87

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    Anyone know their screen names? I’d like to hunt them down and go H2H against them. I’m particularly interested in seeing how Cynthia’s 94% win rate stacks up against my picks. I’m going to guess she’s not cashing in 94% of her GPP entries, and is instead preying on the weak in H2Hs

  • JHols1nger

    @Bighodges93 said...

    Her screen name is Cynthia94

    This needs more love.

  • jscott2493

    her win rate was on tv 2 nights ago

  • shockermandan

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    I got 132nd in the Happy Hour last night and cashed to the tune of a $25 slam ticket. Does that go in the numerator of my win rate calculation?

  • shockermandan

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    CBS Sportsline’s 100 person $20 double up last night only had 48 people in it. Spoiler alert, I WON! +1 to cash rate numerator.

  • TeamSwish412

    Why do you all care so much? Who cares what her win percentage is?

  • einars

    @TeamSwish412 said...

    Why do you all care so much? Who cares what her win percentage is?

    because she is the face of DFS on the most watched sports channel and is making a completely unrealistic claim. if people start DFS expecting 94% win rate you are going to end up with a bunch of pissed off people who hate DFS. its the same thing as advertising a 100% match as an instant match when it really is a 4% drip

  • jilesofthetrees

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    @TeamSwish412 said...

    Why do you all care so much? Who cares what her win percentage is?

    Because snake oil salesmen are an embarrassment to any profession. It propagates an awful idea that ESPN’s audience are to stupid/uniformed to understand that a number like 60% would be impressive and worthy of attention. That rather than acknowledging this weakness in the understanding of its audience and attempting to educate/inform/advise them about the industry (any tout’s professed goal), they instead use some bogus ass manipulated statistic clearly intended to mislead the audience. It’s taking vitamin C (something that actually has nutritional benefits) and needlessly saying that it will ALSO lose you 20 lbs, cure cancer, regrow hair, and give you an erection.
    They are willing to use a misleading (at best) statistic to validate themselves. That’s fucked up.

  • huitcinq

    @TeamSwish412 said...

    Why do you all care so much? Who cares what her win percentage is?

    There is literally nothing positive that can come from Cynthia and ESPN touting this 94% number.

    Either people will start playing DFS with unrealistic expectations and get frustrated, or they’ll assume experts just win every time and just keep playing season long.

    It’s irresponsible, it’s a lie, and it’s detrimental to DFS.

  • Cal

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    Hey guys, let’s be very cognizant of the spread of misinformation here.

    Seth backs up that ESPN is no longer showing a 94% win rate in her credentials. This is my understanding – this was a one time mistake on her first show. That first show was met with a lot of backlash here and on Twitter, and I think ESPN learned from it.

    Showing it once is easily forgivable as ESPN gets experience covering DFS. Showing it ongoing is definitely a problem.

    If anyone sees the 94% on a new show feel free to post it here, but until then let’s talk about this in the past tense.

  • bbbomb

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    @huitcinq said...

    There is literally nothing positive that can come from Cynthia and ESPN touting this 94% number.

    Either people will start playing DFS with unrealistic expectations and get frustrated, or they’ll assume experts just win every time and just keep playing season long.

    It’s irresponsible, it’s a lie, and it’s detrimental to DFS.

    Edit: If ESPN doesn’t show it, then that’s all I care about.

    To further this, I think it’s pretty insulting to the current DFS community, many of whom have worked for YEARS to profit or to be able to win between 55-60%. And to me, the problem isn’t whether she wins at 94% (we know she doesn’t), it’s that either she or ESPN believe that number to be true and claim it as such.

  • WhiskeyTavon4

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    Why do people expect anything different from ESPN? The truth/facts means zero to them. Just yesterday they had Bill Polian on air all day talking about how the Patriots filmed the Rams practice before the Super Bowl. Only problem is that never actually happened and they put out an apology in the middle of the night. Or Chris Mortensen’s reports about the under inflated balls and PSI levels which also turned out to be completely false. They are just a propaganda machine out to extract every single solitary dollar they possibly can. They dont report sports news. Dont see why Cynthia Frelund and her stats should be any different.

  • TeamSwish412

    If people are “insulted”, then you need start caring about more important things

  • Buffalo66

    @Cal said...

    Hey guys, let’s be very cognizant of the spread of misinformation here.

    Seth backs up that ESPN is no longer showing a 94% win rate in her credentials. This is my understanding – this was a one time mistake on her first show. That first show was met with a lot of backlash here and on Twitter, and I think ESPN learned from it.

    Showing it once is easily forgivable as ESPN gets experience covering DFS. Showing it ongoing is definitely a problem.

    If anyone sees the 94% on a new show feel free to post it here, but until then let’s talk about this in the past tense.

    They have shown the “300% ROI in 2015” graphic on sportcenter dozens of times, but not every day.

    I have watched her spreecasts with Derek and she sounds way more informed than the sportscenter spots, mostly because she’s not limited in her time to speak.

    However, ESPN took the money to shill DFS and IMO they deserve the criticism.

    If you really want to know what her username is, the answer is likely on her twitter page banner. It pictures a DK contest where she finished 1st. If somebody looked that contest up… mystery solved.

  • Wombat

    Why is the 94% win rate thing still such a hot topic. Who cares. Yes it was a mistake and a dumb one but in the grand scheme of things it seems like such a dumb thing to receive so much negative attention.

    Also people saying ESPN blew it with DFS coverage the fact that DFS has a platform on SportCenter in itself is a win.

  • btwice80

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    @Cal said...

    Seth backs up that ESPN is no longer showing a 94% win rate in her credentials.

    No, it just wasn’t shown on the segment Seth happened to catch last night. Multiple people ITT have said they’ve seen the win rate graphic more than just that first time.

  • WhiskeyTavon4

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    @TeamSwish412 said...

    If people are “insulted”, then you need start caring about more important things

    I would argue their arent many more important things in our society than bringing to light the spread of misinformation and propaganda disguised as news in order to further the interests of a corporation.

  • WhiskeyTavon4

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    And lets also be honest about the ROI and more importantly the 94% win rate claims. Those werent “mistakes”. They were an intentional attempt to mislead DFS newbies into thinking that watching Frelund’s segment every night would make them money.

  • Elz24

    @WhiskeyTavon4 said...

    And lets also be honest about the ROI and more importantly the 94% win rate claims. Those werent “mistakes”. They were an intentional attempt to mislead DFS newbies into thinking that watching Frelund’s segment every night would make them money.

    This is it. This is the issue. They created a lie to sell their programing

  • Elz24

    One thing about espn is for years they create their own stories.

    For example Jaws will come on and say that Colin Kaepernick has better tools than anyone he has ever scouted he could be the best ever. For the next week ever analyst then debates this. They don’t report on shows, if you watch it you will literally get dumber and know less then you did going into watching espn.

    If you want ESPN content that is good read grantland, listen to Ryan Russilo that’s about it

  • hendry

    damn people hate espn. i kinda think that without espn a lot of us wouldnt have grown up to become such big sports fans. give em a break.

  • Jazzraz

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    FWIW I saw the 94% win graphic on Sportscenter this week , doesn’t really bother me but i don’t think it was an isolated mistake on ESPN’s part

  • pepsies15

    @WhiskeyTavon4 said...

    And lets also be honest about the ROI and more importantly the 94% win rate claims. Those werent “mistakes”. They were an intentional attempt to mislead DFS newbies into thinking that watching Frelund’s segment every night would make them money.

    Well said. I completely agree with this.

  • deactivated79425

    kccannon i think

  • yeahthisiscuddy

    @Wombat said...

    Why is the 94% win rate thing still such a hot topic. Who cares. Yes it was a mistake and a dumb one but in the grand scheme of things it seems like such a dumb thing to receive so much negative attention.

    Also people saying ESPN blew it with DFS coverage the fact that DFS has a platform on SportCenter in itself is a win.

    Cynthia???

  • Yukerboy

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    Let’s not overdramatize this. While I believe the claims are misleading, the more they show this, the more that will sign up with unrealistic expectations.

    90% that signed up had unrealistic expectations. Nothing wrong with that.

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