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  • BurrTheBaddestB

    I know that I am undoubtedly beating a dead horse here with the creation of this new thread, but I gotta get something off of this massive chest ‘o mine that is beginning to grind at my inner “bitch”.

    This season – more so than ever before – pros, so-called “gurus”, and yes, even some decent-sized “sharks” seem to be flooding the “$250 NBA Mini Swat” GPP’s over on FanDuel. Some of them are very recognizable names in the DFS game (as well as being members of this site to boot). With such large amounts of money already won over time and seemingly limitless bankrolls at their disposal, this is as unsettling to me as it is humorous.

    Why are they even wasting their time (and mine) and why do they also seem to be seeking out each and every empty or unfilled “novice” and/or “small fish” opportunity that is possible nowadays?

    Is it an ego thing?

    Is it some kind of power play to remind everyone that you’re going to have to go through them no matter where you may try to play and no matter what amount that you’re willing to wager?

    There has got to be some underlying reason(s) as to how and why this is more prevalent now than during any other season/sport that I’ve noticed to date. If not for any of the aforementioned ones that I just questioned above, though, certainly for a different one…right?

    Any further thoughts and comments on this new(ish) (and absolutely pathetic) trend that I’ve noticed is welcomed and encouraged, gang. Thanks!

  • DoubleTime

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    What if the sites released, say, 20-man contests throughout the day at different buy-in levels for each slate. Anybody is free to enter these contests, with the one caveat being it must be your first submitted entry for that slate. I think this would let people get in one contest per slate with a more diverse crowd. It would be like a slight extension of the beginner games, but available to everyone. Each contest would have an entirely unique field. The pros would use their entry for the highest buy-in level available, leaving the $1 games for those that really are only trying to play $1 games. Once you enter any contest for a given slate, these contests disappear from your lobby. The rules would effect everybody equally so nobody could call it unfair. I do not think this would result in much of a decrease in total money spent by all users. The biggest problem with trying to come up with a solution for this issue (well-known players in every game), is that most solutions limit the overall money spent by all users, so the sites won’t go for it.

    A lot of the grumbling I read is from people that just want to play in one contest that isn’t filled with recognizable names. This is a hobby they spend a couple bucks on and just want one game where they aren’t playing against the best players in the industry. The sites need to come up with a solution that at least allows people to the opportunity to get in very limited action in protected games.

  • SelfCharmer

    @BurrTheBaddestB said...

    No, I play in “Beginner” games because I AM—*ahem*—a BEGINNER. I literally JUST started playing DFS and getting serious about it a little over a month ago.

    You have won $2.5k by your own admission… I am sure there are thousand of other people in the beginner contests who would love to win 10% of that.

    How about you just play the lowest stakes until you get better, you have the BR now to lose $200 in Quarter Arcades until you actually get better, then you wont mind some pros playing in $3 contests as there are still thousands of bad players at that stake.

    Or are you just trying to find the easiest way to win another $2.5k? If you find it, like I said before, let us know how..

  • KillaChap

    @SelfCharmer said...

    Or are you just trying to find the easiest way to win another $2.5k? If you find it, like I said before, let us know how..

    I’ve been playing 2 years and I would love to know how to win $2.5k. I’m not negative over that time but I certainly would love one big one to make it all worth it!

  • KillaChap

    @Cpjttogether said...

    Oh are the beginner contests not flooded with roto ql ,number fire ,monster roster or fantasy labs optimized line ups yet? can a beginner not buy a premium line up and play it? what a mess.

    As someone who has used most of those optimizers, you aren’t going to win dick with them. Even in a beginner contest.

  • KillaChap

    @jjwd said...

    If the real beef is “pros” playing in micro-limit contests, then stick to that point. Get RG on your side or find some other advocate organization. There are constructive ways to make things happen.

    You mean publicly shaming them isn’t constructive? Makes me feel better.

  • fanjuice

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    These are the same people that allow for big contests with huge payouts to happen in the first place because they play such high volume. I don’t think you could have the big $3 and 100k to first tournaments without these sharks. They also allow for more mini swats to be filled, and grow the sites overall experience.

    So there is an upside to the downside

  • fanjuice

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    @KillaChap said...

    As someone who has used most of those optimizers, you aren’t going to win dick with them. Even in a beginner contest.

    This is true, optimizers do have good picks, but the “optimal lineup” it spits out usually is robotic and a human would be able to tell it is a bad play but the optimizer won’t. (For example you know someone is trending down but the optimizer uses all data from the past and the optimized average will be higher than how he will perform today). The best way to succeed using optimizers is to eliminate the picks you don’t like first.

  • KillaChap

    @fanjuice said...

    These are the same people that allow for big contests with huge payouts to happen in the first place because they play such high volume. I don’t think you could have the big $3 and 100k to first tournaments without these sharks. They also allow for more mini swats to be filled, and grow the sites overall experience.

    So there is an upside to the downside

    I get this point, that’s why I’ll never complain about people mass entering huge GPP’s. Your chance at winning these is already slim and if you are expecting to win one, then you’re probably the most optimistic person on earth. My personal gripe is the 3 man $1 games with the “pros.” Let me eat the plankton. Then when I’m good and full I’ll bring more money into the sharks swimming pool and you can try to eat me. Ecosystem 101.

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