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  • walkoff9

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    Shell Houston Open
    GC of Houston • Humble, TX

    Back to golfers we don’t laugh at paying 10k for, and a tournament we can watch and follow live.

    Hole by hole breakdown of the course.

    http://www.golfclubofhouston.com/course/329/3/TournamentCourseTour.aspx

  • Cityworkout

    Thoughts on Tringale, Hubbard, Charlie Hoffman in cash?

  • kdsdawg

    Holmes was on fire entering the match play last week and stunk it up, BUT he also has great course history here at the Shell open

    Anyone have thoughts on what happened last week?

  • JimKronlund

    From The Fantasy Fanatics site. http://www.thefantasyfanatics.com/dfs/pga/cheatsheet.cfm
    Player Notes

    Daniel Berger – Injured his wrist last week but still plans to play. Seems like a situation to avoid.
    Bronson Burgoon – WD (replaced by Sung Kang but he won’t be available on DK)
    Brian Gay – WD

  • BIF

    @kdsdawg said...

    Holmes was on fire entering the match play last week and stunk it up, he also has great course history, Anyone have thoughts on what happened last week?

    I didn’t follow the Match Play very closely so not sure if you mean Holmes stunk because he lost his matches or because you actually pieced together a score for him. Match Play is very difficult to assess how someone played unless you actually saw the matches: 1. You can shoot 66 and lose every day if your opponent played better. 2. You can shoot 72 and win many matches if paired up against right opponent that day. 3. Many players change their approach from playing the course or par to playing the individual/opponent which alters their game plan – as a longer hitter, Holmes is probably hitting his approach shots AFTER his opponent so if the opponent is a GIR guy or having a good day, the pressure is on JB all day. 4. Putting is huge in match play as some days your lag putts get close and have 2ft gimme’s all day and other days your long lag putts leave you a 3.5ft knee knocker almost every hole and of course if your opponent is making a lot of putts, that puts more heat on you.

    So, again I didn’t watch it but I typically give little weight to a match play event when looking at recent form if someone lost early – I do give some weight to the guys who made it to final 8 as it is unlikely that they played poorly every round and snuck out wins each day.

  • smallANDflaccid

    Learning this week that Fantasy Aces has a god awful “edit lineups” feature set. Even with so few (10, maybe?) lineups it is hilariously difficult (or at least complicated).
    (and Fantasy Feud’s is super easy)

  • kdsdawg

    @BIF said...

    I didn’t follow the Match Play very closely so not sure if you mean Holmes stunk because he lost his matches or because you actually pieced together a score for him. Match Play is very difficult to assess how someone played unless you actually saw the matches: 1. You can shoot 66 and lose every day if your opponent played better. 2. You can shoot 72 and win many matches if paired up against right opponent that day. 3. Many players change their approach from playing the course or par to playing the individual/opponent which alters their game plan – as a longer hitter, Holmes is probably hitting his approach shots AFTER his opponent so if the opponent is a GIR guy or having a good day, the pressure is on JB all day. 4. Putting is huge in match play as some days your lag putts get close and have 2ft gimme’s all day and other days your long lag putts leave you a 3.5ft knee knocker almost every hole and of course if your opponent is making a lot of putts, that puts more heat on you.

    So, again I didn’t watch it but I typically give little weight to a match play event when looking at recent form if someone lost early – I do give some weight to the guys who made it to final 8 as it is unlikely that they played poorly every round and snuck out wins each day.

    My bad, I was actually looking the WGC-Cadillac, this past weekend Holmes lost first round 3&2 to Grillio, he had four birdies, five bogies.

    He was bad his last full event at the WGC-Cadillac- 77 72 72 80

    Prior to that he was on fire..might be a good pick as his ownership will be lower due to recency bias

    What are your thoughts on him?

  • stellamoose

    JJ Henry is in my cash LU at the moment and I think I am very thrilled about it.

    Looks like Lahiri isn’t available on DK though in the field…

  • Cityworkout

    Is Hubbard a solid cash play? He is 4050 out of 45000 cap on Aces.

  • BIF

    @JimKronlund said...

    Bif, your thoughts on Jimmy Walker please.

    I’ll start by saying I’ve been having trouble getting him right – I usually just play him in Hawaii and California where he plays well and then fade rest of the year besides a major or an early playoff event. This year, he didn’t play as well in Hawaii/Cali as past years then did play better than past years in Fla so I really don’t know what to expect.

    I think his game suits Houston pretty well so I think he is worth the price if you like him and there is nothing to me that would scare me off him, but of course there are many good players this week to choose from.

  • BIF

    @kdsdawg said...

    My bad, I was actually looking the WGC-Cadillac, this past weekend Holmes lost first round 3&2 to Grillio, he had four birdies, five bogies.

    He was bad his last full event at the WGC-Cadillac- 77 72 72 80

    Prior to that he was on fire..might be a good pick as his ownership will be lower due to recency bias

    What are your thoughts on him?

    He is very polar with respect to his finishes so the perfect GPP guy and not a Cash game guy in my opinion. He will have a few Wins or Top 3’s and then piss you off with a couple missed cuts when you don’t expect it.

    He won here last year so I think he’ll be higher owned which puts me off him a little, but there is enough upside for me that I did play him on a few lineups.

  • BIF

    @stellamoose said...

    JJ Henry is in my cash LU at the moment and I think I am very thrilled about it.

    Looks like Lahiri isn’t available on DK though in the field…

    Lahiri and Kang were added to the field as Alternates after Gay and Burgoon WD’d so are both not on DK’s player list.

  • JimKronlund

    Thank you Bif, that is kinda where I am at as well. The favorites are obvious but so many other players can catch a little fire and win without being a real surprise.

  • smallANDflaccid

    @smallANDflaccid said...

    Bowditch seems expensive… at any price.

    As of an hour ago, he was in the lead with -4 through 11 in practice/pro-am stuff. So there’s that.
    (Berger was T5 with -2 through 13)

    Haven’t ever spent a single second comparing how practices go vs reality (in that I don’t have any data), just noting what I saw on Twitter.

  • stellamoose

    @BIF said...

    Lahiri and Kang were added to the field as Alternates after Gay and Burgoon WD’d so are both not on DK’s player list.

    Figured that was why – thanks!

    I would have had 100% of Lahiri so maybe that will be a saving grace this week.

  • smallANDflaccid

    @stellamoose said...

    Figured that was why – thanks!

    I would have had 100% of Lahiri so maybe that will be a saving grace this week.

    fantasyfeud has him if you are over there – didn’t check there for Kang

  • gibbathy

    2014 FSWA Golf Writer of the Year

    • Blogger of the Month

    I don’t hate Bowditch as a punt play this week. His two wins on Tour have come in Texas. He didn’t have good form coming into either event. He resides in Texas (Dallas area though) so the Texas winds aren’t that unfamiliar to him.

    Note – I’m not saying put a huge percentage in on Steven Bowditch. Just if you want to get cheeky with a lineup he gives great roster flexibility.

  • smallANDflaccid

    @gibbathy said...

    Note – I’m not saying put a huge percentage in on Steven Bowditch.

  • gibbathy

    2014 FSWA Golf Writer of the Year

    • Blogger of the Month

    @smallANDflaccid said...

    Well played sir

  • JimKronlund

    That is so fkn funny and true.
    Ok he will get one lineup because of this.

  • thetitanlb

    Where do you get the shell pro am scoreboard?

  • JimKronlund

    Damnit, weather site says Scattered thunderstorms Thursday morning, partly cloudy in afternoon.
    Then Friday say partly cloudy in am and scattered thunderstorms in the afternoon.
    Bloody hell I have 200 lineups. Changes are not easy.

    https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/Humble+TX+77338:4:US

  • smallANDflaccid

    @thetitanlb said...

    Where do you get the shell pro am scoreboard?

    https://twitter.com/PGAPractice

  • TPSC

    @BIF said...

    Lahiri and Kang were added to the field as Alternates after Gay and Burgoon WD’d so are both not on DK’s player list.

    Interesting note. Burgoon was going to try to play despite having his wedding in Fort Worth on Saturday. He is from the Woodlands, so this is his hometown tournament.

    My friend owns a private jet company (like NetJets, but better!), so they were working out a deal where they would fly Burgoon to his wedding on Saturday night after his round if he made the cut, then fly him back to Houston for the Sunday round after his wedding. In exchange, Burgoon was going to wear the Vault Aviation logo. Would have been really nice visibility for my friend’s startup if it had played out that way. But Burgoon apparently came to his senses.

    I can’t imagine his bride loved the idea.

  • BIF

    @JimKronlund said...

    Bloody hell I have 200 lineups. Changes are not easy.

    http://playbook.draftkings.com/press/new-lineup-feature-edit-entries/

  • thetitanlb

    @smallANDflaccid said...

    https://twitter.com/PGAPractice

    Oh thanks. I been following him forever. Was unaware he had someone for practice this week since he hadnt the last few. Thanks

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