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  • whodat2

    THIS IS AN INAUGURAL EVENT

    When: July 4-7

    Where: Twin Cities, Minnesota

    Course: TPC Twin Cities | A par 71 playing at 7468 yards

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    Last Year’s Cut: N/A

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  • superstars92

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    Niemann will win a major one day and maybe a tournament in the next 2 years (which is really impressive because he’s YOUNGER than Hovland – I bet a lot of people playing Hovland might not know that). But until he learns to make a 10 foot birdie putt, he won’t be winning soon.

  • Wander_Bread

    @superstars92 said...

    I actually have a theory that Brooks actually cares about non-majors almost more than anyone on Tour, but for some reason, his game isn’t suited for non-majors and thus only does well in Majors.

    He’s played in Europe, Asia, and North America in his career. I think he actually likes to travel a lot and play different golf courses, so he tries to play everywhere, but maybe his game isn’t suited for these courses so he doesn’t always do that well….but it’s not the same as not caring (like he won the CJ Cup and the Dunlop Phoenix Open in Asia before, why would anyone “care” about those?). If he didn’t care, he would just not play. You aren’t required to play more than 1 new PGA event a year, and Brooks is like literally playing every event the last 2 months.

    I read the quote when he lost the Dunlop Phoenix Open last fall (after winning it last 2 years, including a ridiculous 9 shots over Xander in 2017) that was was super pissed and was pretty mad at his whole game. That doesn’t sound like someone who doesn’t care. More like someone who cared about winning but the golf course/game didn’t play well at that particular course.

    Brooks has said many times that the reason he does so well in majors is because they are suited to his game. He tees off knowing ~60% of golfers have absolutely zero chance to win so that elevates his motivation to another level versus a normal tour event where you know probably 85-90% of plays can win if they get hot. That’s words right out of his mouth.

  • smallANDflaccid

    60% of the time, it works every time

  • superstars92

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    @Wander_Bread said...

    Brooks has said many times that the reason he does so well in majors is because they are suited to his game. He tees off knowing ~60% of golfers have absolutely zero chance to win so that elevates his motivation to another level versus a normal tour event where you know probably 85-90% of plays can win if they get hot. That’s words right out of his mouth.

    Right but people say he “doesn’t care about non-majors” (lthat’s literally the words people say). I don’t think that’s true at all. Adam Scott is someone who doesn’t care about non-majors. He takes like the whole year off. I think Brooks like traveling and playing new courses, but he just doesn’t fit those courses well.

  • marker0357

    Lehman???

  • smallANDflaccid

    @Wander_Bread said...

    That’s words right out of his mouth.

    Who are you going to trust what’s going on with Brooks. Brooks Koepka, or DFSers on a forum.
    If you ask me, I think he’s biased.

  • Dunzor

    @superstars92 said...

    Niemann will win a major one day and maybe a tournament in the next 2 years (which is really impressive because he’s YOUNGER than Hovland – I bet a lot of people playing Hovland might not know that). But until he learns to make a 10 foot birdie putt, he won’t be winning soon.

    Agreed, I’m a huge Niemann fan and I’ve liked what I saw from Hovland so far too. Niemann has been showing a slow uptick the last month or so in his short game and his ball striking remains strong. He’s done much better in his young career on Bentgrass or this northeast Bent/POA mix, so if he is gonna win it’s gonna be this time of year during this stretch of tourneys in the summer. I haven’t looked too much at all the salaries to get an idea of a full build but it is highly likely I will be playing Niemann again this week

  • Kp24

    @Dunzor said...

    I mean Finau is scuffling a bit, he’s coming off 3 straight MC and 2 60th place finishes in his last 6 tourneys (with his 2nd place mixed in).

    Recent form, bad but long term form is there, class rating of sorts.
    Niemann is a fine player on great form, just don’t see how Finau doesn’t get pretty chalky at that price.

    Congrats btw Dunzor, that’s a massive tournament and you got a seat. Best of luck pal

  • timusbr

    @superstars92 said...

    Wait Brooks is playing here? How come he’s playing so much? I think he actually cares about non-majors but for some reason his game just hasn’t done well on non-major courses. If he didn’t care, he has no incentive to keep playing RBC Canadian Open, Travelers, and now 3M. He could just pull a Adam Scott or Justin Rose or Tiger Woods and not play anything. You only have to add 1 new event a year (and he plays the Asian events too, even the Dunlop Phoenix Open which he’s won twice), you don’t have to keep playing.

    This is the 40th week of the 2019 season and will be Brooks’s 16th start.
    I am not sure that Brooks is playing “so much”.

    a discussion that never can end, be different for each commenters on each golfer and everyone has a degree of rightness…………. A professional actually cares

    I think most people care about their work. and I think most people have bad days and most people should have called in sick on certain days even though they were not sick.

    I also think that Brooks does himself a disservice. He and many other top golfers make no issue about saying I am focused on the majors. When Tiger was young, I think he wanted to beat everyone on any day of the year. MJ in basketball never even took practice off. He went balls out, all the time, and wanted to crush you and “own you”. Saying I am focused on majors….thats my clue.

  • Pbasniper

    @marker0357 said...

    Lehman???

    From the great state of Minnesota also supervised the course changes for this event to try and make it more of a challenge for when it hosted this week.

  • superstars92

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    @timusbr said...

    This is the 40th week of the 2019 season and will be Brooks’s 16th start.
    I am not sure that Brooks is playing “so much”.

    It’s his 19th start of the season I think which is a lot. Most other golfers around the top 20 don’t play 19 events (most are probably at 13-17 events – Rickie only is at 17 and I know he loves to travel too), especially on multiple tours and all over the world. It’s the travel that’s insane, not just the pure events. He also played in Scotland (Alfrid Links Dunhill), Japan (Dunlop Phoenix Open), Saudi Arabia (Saudi Arabia International) and in the UAE (Abu Dhabi), but those just aren’t PGA events so you don’t have them in your analysis. He also skiped the easiest traveling stretch which was California.

    Like this year alone (2018-19), he’s played in the US, Scotland, Saudi Arabia, Japan, China, UAE, Mexico, South Korea, and Canada (and will be Northern Ireland soon). I think he just loves traveling, so he tries to play golf courses there, even if they aren’t great fits. Like him playing at Travelers was just dumb. He was never gonna win there since it’s a 6800 yard course and he flew cross country, but I think he just wanted to see how it went.

    My point really was Brooks I think tries in non-majors but he just happened to play a bunch of courses that don’t fit his game. This is quite different than saying “he doesn’t care.” If he truly didn’t care, he wouldn’t have traveled to 9, 10 with Northern Ireland, countries around the world in the last year to play.

    It’s really interesting. I actually think he likes winning major first, but traveling must be a huge hobby for him, unlike some other golfers. I’m 100% positive he’ll play in the Olympics if he’s invited, unlike all those guys who just bailed out last time. Now Jordan Spieth will never get to play in any Olympics.

  • Money0227

    @Kp24 said...

    just don’t see how Finau doesn’t get pretty chalky at that price

    I don’t know. He’s sandwiched by Niemann and Hovland who both figure to be pretty darn chalky.

  • timusbr

    Looking at Koepka schedule. I think he has a rhythm going. (example to horseracings thourographs. if you have seen that) basicly I believe athletes have condition cycles performance cycles.

    I think you can ignore API, Players, WGC Mex results. (5 events in 6 weeks is not his thing). The masters was 2 weeks of prep. Then he went on a family vacation and competitive golf with his brother in matchplay. 2 weeks later, nice finishes in Byron Nelson and The PGA. Doesnt touch a club for 2 or 3 weeks before RCB Canada. Then does well in US Open. Travelers was 3rd week in a row.

    Now a week off of practice and Brooks is looking at a performance cycle.

    question, about how many times does a professional swing any club in the course of a practice week or tournament week?

  • deadheadtoyz

    As he should be with his form ! Something wrong with him.

  • hbomb57

    Anybody know what happened to Malnati in the 4th round (74) for him to drop just inside top 30. Was not paying attention and thought for sure he was headed for his first top 10 this year.

  • franksmith494

    how does one go about procuring an invite to the league?

  • caleb21scott

    $18 in last week and $1500 out and 11 british open tickets. Hopeful to keep the ball rolling this week. Cant tell you why but im really liking philly mick this week although RF sucks. Hes DUE!

  • Felixxberg

    @Money0227 said...

    I don’t know. He’s sandwiched by Niemann and Hovland who both figure to be pretty darn chalky.

    I have the 3 of them in my gut lineup!

  • Felixxberg

    If I replace Finau by Im, my oldest player is 22!

  • mitchsnyderdfw

    @Kp24 said...

    Finau priced below Niemann….okaaaaaay

    Finau has been mediocre at best this year. He always get attention, but his game is in shambles right now

  • mason3132

    What happen is he couldn’t make anything. Killed me on Sunday well him Howell and coatrack.

  • lfn1992

    @smallANDflaccid said...

    60% of the time, it works every time

  • timusbr

    @franksmith494 said...

    how does one go about procuring an invite to the league?

    Well sometimes this link works and sometimes it just goes to lobby menu page.
    https://dkn.gs/r/XO6t7WVgKUi6ZZjaCqJxTQ

    If not, we need a DK user name.

  • franksmith494

    @timusbr said...

    Well sometimes this link works and sometimes it just goes to lobby menu page.
    https://dkn.gs/r/XO6t7WVgKUi6ZZjaCqJxTQ

    If not, we need a DK user name.

    got it. Thanks.

  • Boooooourns

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    Garrigus! Glad he’s back. Suspended for violating the leagues doping policy. Sounds like was on roids or something… the guy likes to smoke a little weed. Big deal!

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