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  • whodat2

    When: July 16-19

    Where: Dublin, Ohio

    Course: Muirfield Village GC | A par 72 playing at 7392 yards.

    Last Year’s Winner: Patrick Cantlay at -19

    Last Year’s Cut: +1

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  • Dunzor

    Wow I just realized a won a full tourney 5/5 I thought was dead when they reversed Rahm’s last birdie with the penalty to keep him under 18.5 for the week. That was a great surprise email to get after I had turned off the coverage. Nothing like a random unexpected $750

  • zeeshan2

    @JTAx33 said...

    $43 into $1,000 worth of lotto tickets is a damn good deal. Bring home the big one for the forum :)

    so possibly a noob question but where does one find contests for tickets on DK or FD?

  • BIF

    @zeeshan2 said...

    so possibly a noob question but where does one find contests for tickets on DK or FD?

    There are tons listed on DK by Monday afternoon

    If you can’t find them, filter on Satellites and Qualifiers – they will be listed there. They continually add new ones a few times a day as the previous ones fill.

  • sneaksox

    Congrats to BIF, Monarch and the other winners. Bombed pretty bad in my first $200 SE Attempt and milly lineups but more than made up for it on monkey today with all the over parlays. Finally wound up on the right side of a Rahm implosion, which is funny to say since he still won, but it was closer than it ever should’ve been.

  • Awon1

    @Awon1 said...

    Jon Rahm is egregiously mispriced. Even if he sucked on Sunday he’s mispriced.

    What has Hovland done in the last few years that’s anywhere close to Rahm?

    The craziest thing is I only chose Rahm and he was my highest exposure to any golfer this week only because of his price and maybe a bit due to what he did last Sunday on this course, as I said Tuesday. This also goes for Finau, which was the next post. I don’t choose him except for his price.

    If Rahm has been priced normally, which is 10.6k, I would have had like 5% of him instead of 50%. But he happens to win the week where his price is the most mispriced it’s been all season.

    Happens all the time in NFL.

    I remember I chose Will Fuller one week vs Falcons ONLY because of his price. I had 100% Fuller that week. He literally sucked all season up to that point. The one week his price is messed up and too low, he has the best game of his career with like 200 yards and 3 TDs. That’s kinda ironic because it’s not that I thought Rahm would win or Fuller goes off, but it happens I choose them due to price, and they just happen to also have career weeks that week.

    The reverse happens too all the time. Sometimes someone is way overpriced and looks overpriced but then he also wins and I don’t have him. This is how I faded Chris Godwin for multiple games until I realized his price was justified.

  • Awon1

    But you know what this means. Rahm will be the highest priced golfer at WGC and of course I’ll do a full 100% fade. Not because he is bad or that I don’t like him…but because I think him being the highest priced golfer over Rory should not be happening this soon.

  • tprokopenko

    @Awon1 said...

    I’m actually curious to know why Canada doesn’t tax you for fantasy sports.

    Don’t they need the extra money to then give out in their universal health care plan? They might not realize how big fantasy sports/sports gambling might become. The DK stock has been doing well overall since the IPO.

    Nothing gambling or lottery related is taxed in Canada. I find it so weird that the USA taxes something a person wins.

    The exception being if you are a professional gambler as your job.

  • Awon1

    @tprokopenko said...

    Nothing gambling or lottery related is taxed in Canada. I find it so weird that the USA taxes something a person wins.

    The exception being if you are a professional gambler as your job.

    Ah that’s interesting. I didn’t know nothing gambling or lottery related was taxed. I thought it was only fantasy sports.

    Yea US is weird. Like their capital gains tax is ridiculously low (15-20%), which obviously really favors the rich.

    But most of these lottery/gambling winners are generally not rich to begin with yet they have to pay a heavy income tax at the high tax bracket if they win a lot.

    If they really wanted to “fix” the system, they should tax capital gains more and tax like gambling less. Good for Canada they don’t tax any of that in that case then.

  • BIF

    @tprokopenko said...

    Nothing gambling or lottery related is taxed in Canada. I find it so weird that the USA taxes something a person wins.

    The exception being if you are a professional gambler as your job.

    There is a tax treaty between US/Canada that allows for these types of winnings to be paid out to Canadians without any withholding tax taken off on the US side and once in our hands in Canada, as you mentioned, all gambling/lottery wins are exempt from tax (unless you are a professional gambler and claim it as a business and write off expenses).

  • miggs6876

    @BIF said...

    There are tons listed on DK by Monday afternoon

    If you can’t find them, filter on Satellites and Qualifiers – they will be listed there. They continually add new ones a few times a day as the previous ones fill.

    Bif, makes it look easy. Those qualifiers aren’t easy to win.

  • Awon1

    @Raddy00 said...

    Many thanks for the info. Appreciate your speedy response.

    Oh one more thing. If you make under 600 dollars, you won’t get the 1099. You only get it if you make over 600 dollars.

    If you make over 600, you must report it on your tax return since the 1099 will be used to match. If you make under 600, technically, you might not have to report it since there’s no official form, but I still would just for full clarity.

    I think there’s a tax thread here where people ask what happens when it’s under 600 dollars and a few CPAs respond.

  • Awon1

    @BIF said...

    There is a tax treaty between US/Canada that allows for these types of winnings to be paid out to Canadians without any withholding tax taken off on the US side and once in our hands in Canada, as you mentioned, all gambling/lottery wins are exempt from tax (unless you are a professional gambler and claim it as a business and write off expenses).

    There’s no withholding on the US side either if you don’t want anything withheld. So if you won like 20k last year, most people most likely here in the US got all 20k rather than some smaller amount. That even most likely goes for the millionaire winners, unless they ask for part of their winnings to be withheld.

    However, in that case (which is most of the cases since you have to actually explicitly ask for withholding), you must then report that number next year when filing and most likely pay a tax rather than receive a refund (unless your employer W2 withheld so much it made up for your fantasy sports winnings).

    So like if you won the millionaire maker and you ended up having around net 1M winnings in a year, you probably have to pay like around 400k in total federal/state taxes the next year, depending on your other income.

    This is where the “estimated tax” comes into play, but it’s irrelevant for first time winners who have never gotten the 1099 before. If you have gotten 1099s before, you might have to pay an estimated tax 4 times a year to avoid the interest payment when you do pay your taxes the next year you file. Or if you don’t want to pay estimated taxes, you can withhold voluntarily.

  • BIF

    @Awon1 said...

    There’s no withholding on the US side either if you don’t want anything withheld

    I know you guys don’t (because they issue tax slips 1099’s and kinda enforce you to claim it that way). but if we didn’t have the tax treaty in place, the US would enforce a withholding tax on us to ensure they collected something from foreign residents otherwise they’d never collect anything.

    Yah we have the same estimated tax system and you pay quarterly instalments – it’s common for wealthy retirees who have multiple stream of income (pensions, dividends, etc..) and many streams are either not taxed or taxed too low so it prevents (sticker shock) and a large tax bill at year end.

  • titanhawks

    Well my 5/6 passed both my 6/6’s to give me three cashing this week and my Rahm 4/6 was dancing in and out of the money but fell 4.5 points short

    Ended up 7-19 in Beat the Forum; never thought Simpson and Berger would be the ones to sink my LU which finished seventh of my seven LU right behind my sixth best LU in the Happy Meal :(

  • XxHeisenbergxX

    Holy moly are there some serious shit bags in next weeks field LMAO

  • depalma13

    Woodland and Cantlay’s implosions took away my chance to break even this week.

    That was a pathetic excuse for a tournament. The golf was so bad, I turned off the final round. If I want to see bogey and double bogey plus golf, I’ll go play a round or two with my friends.

    My guess is these players are just happy to be done with the old man’s torture chamber and can go back to making a living.

  • MrBreeze

    @Awon1 said...

    Oh one more thing. If you make under 600 dollars, you won’t get the 1099. You only get it if you make over 600 dollars.

    If you make over 600, you must report it on your tax return since the 1099 will be used to match. If you make under 600, technically, you might not have to report it since there’s no official form, but I still would just for full clarity.

    I think there’s a tax thread here where people ask what happens when it’s under 600 dollars and a few CPAs respond.

    and this law is antiquated, the 600 figure is decades old and should at least be doubled. Every time a politician tries to pass a bill to increase it, it dies.

  • mh8235

    Cheers to those who made it into the green this week….finally a week worth celebrating, even though still feeling the sting a bit from a close finish

    Came in 4th in the $44 Club Twirl for $1,500, but missed out on 3rd and 2nd by 0.5pts and 1 pt respectively.

    Finau, Spieth, and Scheffler all let me down Sunday, but hard to complain about Reeds great round (albeit rough finish after stoppage)

    Finally got 2 tickets reserved in the Pat Mayo this week, so look forward to going heads up against a few of ya.

    On to 3M!!!!

  • nicholasmarsh

    @mh8235 said...

    Cheers to those who made it into the green this week….finally a week worth celebrating, even though still feeling the sting a bit from a close finish

    Came in 4th in the $44 Club Twirl for $1,500, but missed out on 3rd and 2nd by 0.5pts and 1 pt respectively.

    Finau, Spieth, and Scheffler all let me down Sunday, but hard to complain about Reeds great round (albeit rough finish after stoppage)

    Finally got 2 tickets reserved in the Pat Mayo this week, so look forward to going heads up against a few of ya.

    On to 3M!!!!

    Nice!! Go FORUM!!

  • BigRay

    Good week. my 4/6, 5/6 and 6/6 all cashed in the Milly. Woodland’s eagle is the only reason my weak 6/6 cashed , it would have been so much better had he had a better day. Also, big shot out to Billy Horschel for coming in top 15 by going even early yesterday and watching all the golfers fall behind him.

  • XxHeisenbergxX

    @depalma13 said...

    Woodland and Cantlay’s implosions took away my chance to break even this week.

    That was a pathetic excuse for a tournament. The golf was so bad, I turned off the final round. If I want to see bogey and double bogey plus golf, I’ll go play a round or two with my friends.

    My guess is these players are just happy to be done with the old man’s torture chamber and can go back to making a living.

    LMAO I couldn’t agree more…although I did manage a few dollar profit HOWEVER..I was hoping Dechamblow went and smashed his clubs WWE style over Jack’s head for that crap golf.

    As for this week these salaries are HILARIOUS.

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