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  • whodat2

    When: August 19-22

    Where: Jersey City, NJ

    Course: Liberty National Golf Club | A par 71 playing at 7,410 yards

    Last Year’s Winner: Dustin Johnson at -30

    Last Year’s Cut: -1

    Coverage: PGATourLive| Golf Channel | CBS

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  • hbomb57

    Last years cut was minus 1 and winning score was -30. This seemed odd until I went back and seen that DJ was in a Zone all by himself and won this event by 11 strokes. Where did that Zone go DJ.

  • Getty33

    Last year’s Northern Trust was played at TPC Boston. This event is at Liberty National in metro NY/NJ which hosted it in 2019.

  • cplatt87

    Really curious to see how the pricing shakes out this week.

    Even with Louie WD’ing, this is still by far the most stacked field of the year. Should result in some pretty soft pricing

  • BIF

    The fact that Chesson Hadley finished 125th and knocked out Justin Rose at 126th on the strength of a Hadley hole-in-one and a JRose missed 4 footer on 18 pretty much sums up this wraparound “super” season from a DFS perspective.

  • hbomb57

    Pricing out early no surprises up top but there a lot of names in the 6500 – to 7500 that look good, the bigger question is which ones will end up that way come Sunday.

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @BIF said...

    The fact that Chesson Hadley finished 125th and knocked out Justin Rose at 126th on the strength of a Hadley hole-in-one and a JRose missed 4 footer on 18 pretty much sums up this wraparound “super” season from a DFS perspective.

    That’s insanity! It feels weird to see Rose, Fowler and Fleetwood out while some guys like Hadley, Lahiri, Perez, Hoge etc. are in!

  • manoffewwords

    2012,Liberty National was voted worse course on PGA tour by players,per Geoff Shackelford players poll.“Should have left it as a waste dump”
    I am interested in seeing how they feel today.

  • ifthethunder

    @hbomb57 said...

    Pricing out early no surprises up top but there a lot of names in the 6500 – to 7500 that look good, the bigger question is which ones will end up that way come Sunday.

    Matthew Wolff and Hank Lebioda are both a lot cheaper this week. I wonder if having the weekend off was rejuvenating for them?
    ~

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    My gut lineup is 6 guys between $7.8K and $8.9K. I feel like all of them could win it.

  • cplatt87

    Sam Ryder at the stone minumum of 6k is appealing. Hes been solid his last 4 events and is making a ton of birdies.

    Overall i really like stars and scrubs this week with the softer pricing

  • hbomb57

    Pretty good article on one of the 25 players who got their PGA card guy was pretty emotional. Article has full list. Zalatoris and Perriera among some of the notables we have seen this year.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/korn-ferry-tour-regular-season-020123102.html

    David Skinns
    16 years. Sixteen years. Was working Doordash 8 months ago. 39 years old and now a PGA Tour card. Amazing stuff.

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @hbomb57 said...

    David Skinns
    16 years. Sixteen years. Was working Doordash 8 months ago. 39 years old and now a PGA Tour card. Amazing stuff.

    Solid story! Such a long grind!

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    I looked at the past two weeks FGWC results, and I would be in the live final by finishing T80th in the first one and T8th in the second one. Really wish I got a ticket, but I didn’t really try this year. 6/40 get at least $100K. I really wish I had one! I don’t think any forum regular is still in.

  • BIF

    @Felixxberg said...

    I looked at the past two weeks FGWC results, and I would be in the live final by finishing T80th in the first one and T8th in the second one. Really wish I got a ticket, but I didn’t really try this year. 6/40 get at least $100K. I really wish I had one! I don’t think any forum regular is still in.

    I was in the FGWC the last 2 years but I didn’t like the 3 week elimination format this year so never really chased a spot – I won a few of the $44 qualifier tickets this year but never got close on any of those when I entered them.

    Also didn’t like they they allowed people to win 10 tickets when just 250 total entries – the 3% limit should have applied capping it at 7-8 max for a user.

  • mitchsnyderdfw

    @Felixxberg said...

    I looked at the past two weeks FGWC results, and I would be in the live final by finishing T80th in the first one and T8th in the second one. Really wish I got a ticket, but I didn’t really try this year. 6/40 get at least $100K. I really wish I had one! I don’t think any forum regular is still in.

    Here is a contest to follow along with the FGWC this year. Free entry.

    https://www.draftkings.com/draft/contest/111829459

  • mitchsnyderdfw

    @Felixxberg said...

    I don’t think any forum regular is still in.

    Noticed that mpendle is still alive. I don’t think I have seen him post in a few years, but he is a regular in the HM each week and just about every 50/50 for that matter.

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @BIF: Same here. I also didn’t want to commit not knowing what Covid rules would be. It’s still pretty severe here in Quebec.

    @mitchsnyderdfw: A follow along contest makes it even more painful if I do well, but free is free so I’m in. I remember seeing that mpendle comes from a “random” (not US or Canada) country when DK ran a battle of the countries. He’s from Wales or something like that. I think DK is much more popular in North America, but it’s fun to see some far away people crush it too!

  • titanhawks

    @mitchsnyderdfw said...

    Here is a contest to follow along with the FGWC this year. Free entry.

    https://www.draftkings.com/draft/contest/111829459

    Thanks; I’m in

    Will be fun to watch and play along :)

  • deepfat

    After an initial look, Paul Casey is the most underpriced in the top 25 of salaries.

  • Getty33

    @deepfat said...

    After an initial look, Paul Casey is the most underpriced in the top 25 of salaries.

    I’ve been down that road before. Cash games? Sure. But where is the win equity? He never fails to screw up enough holes to pull himself out of contention. Pretty typical of the UK contingent the last few years.

  • deepfat

    @Getty33 said...

    I’ve been down that road before. Cash games? Sure. But where is the win equity? He never fails to screw up enough holes to pull himself out of contention. Pretty typical of the UK contingent the last few years.

    Yeah, I hear you. He has broken my heart on more than one occasion. I look at a guy like Morikawa who seems to be going down the Brooks path of only popping during majors. I know he won the Memorial this year but seems to be very similar to Koepka in that respect. He’s slightly mispriced at the top considering his win equity.

  • byo34

    This may be unpopular but I feel win equity is a bit overrated when it comes to DFS. Especially sub 9k.

    DFS is about the points and sometimes good DFS players aren’t guys who always win.

    Ancer before St Jude has been an amazingly consistent DFS player without winning, Louis has been one of the best for DFS and he doesn’t win. Burns before his win.. I could go on.

    Granted, this is a smaller field than usual, but I have seen plenty of lineups win it all without having the winner.

    On that note… I am in on Hovland this week! Feel this course sets up quite well for him if he is on point with his irons.

  • byo34

    Also that opinion may be why I have been awful at Golf DFS this year.

  • deepfat

    @byo34 said...

    This may be unpopular but I feel win equity is a bit overrated when it comes to DFS. Especially sub 9k.

    DFS is about the points and sometimes good DFS players aren’t guys who always win.

    Ancer before St Jude has been an amazingly consistent DFS player without winning, Louis has been one of the best for DFS and he doesn’t win. Burns before his win.. I could go on.

    Granted, this is a smaller field than usual, but I have seen plenty of lineups win it all without having the winner.

    On that note… I am in on Hovland this week! Feel this course sets up quite well for him if he is on point with his irons.

    Agree with this. I think trying to fill your lineup with guys that can realistically get a top 10 is the best strategy. If I stumble into a win doing that then even better.

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    I personally prefer to see it in groups.

    Morikawa has better win equity than Casey or Hatton, but you can play Casey AND Hatton for the same price as Morikawa and a $6.1K guy. What are the odds of the latter outscoring the former? I’d say they’re pretty low. If you’re playing 150 lineups, you can cover both, but in other contests, trying to guess which of the 17 $6.1K- guys will score enough to be worth it is near impossible. There’s also a fair chance than none will. They’re priced like that for a reason!

    Also, is Morikawa really that much better than Casey? I assume they played similar tournaments, including all the strong field ones, and Morikawa averages 79.3 DKPPG, with 19/21 cuts made and 9 top 10s. Casey averages 77.3 DKPPG, with also 19/21 cuts made and 10 top 10s. Take the $1.7K discount and upgrade someone else! Of course there are a lot of other factors, but in general, I think Casey is a good play in every format. There are some fine pivots around him, too. I really like the middle priced group.

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