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  • whodat2

    When: July 20-23

    Where: Southport, England

    Course: Royal Birkdale GC | A par 70 links-style course, plating at 7156 yards.

    Last Year’s Winner: Heinrik Stenson at -20

    Last Year’s Cut: +4

    Cut Rule: Top 70 plus ties. No MDF

    Coverage: Golf Channel – Thur / Fri at 1:30am EST (possibly Sat and Sun as well) | NBC – Sat / Sun at 7am EST | DirecTV channels 701-704

    There is no shot-tracker on PGAtour.com this week. | www.theopen.com will possibly have one, as well as the ability to stream coverage.

    Admin Note: The mod team is working to keep these daily threads more on topic – Golf strategy talk for this week’s contest. Post referring to last week’s contest will be moved to the correct thread. Any off topic posts or posts containing full lineups will be deleted..

  • superstars92

    Oh nice you made this thread. Basically, I don’t think I can choose any golfers until I see the weather. As many of you guys might know, the weather was the single most important thing in last year’s tournament. There was a HUGE difference between the two waves of golfers. Stenson/Mickelson, not surprisingly, got the good weather draw.

  • BIF

    Pretty easy to make lineups – tons of good value in 9K range and even more value in the 6300-6600 range.

    Cink might be 25% owned at $6300

    Thanks to DK’s pricing I have a Cink pivot that I love – it’s someone who I’ve been tracking and borderline cyber stalking for about 6 weeks – I’m thinking he’ll be under 2% owned as well.

  • superstars92

    Again, not choosing any players now, but I just looked at the pricing. Is there something wrong with Fleetwood’s pricing? I would have said 0% chance Fleetwood is priced higher than Hideki.

  • Wander_Bread

    The last time the open was at Royal Birkdale was in 2008 and was won by Padraig Harrington at +3. Ian Poulter was the runner up at +7 with Henrik and Greg Norman finishing at +9 for a T-3. No other golfer was less than +10. The cut was +10 to get through to the weekend. Sean O’Hair made the cut and ended up shooting +26 with an 80-78 weekend.

    I remember the weather not being great which caused for some really high scores. In good conditions the course plays A LOT easier, but it’s still one of the tougher Open Championship courses in the rotation. Guess we will see how the conditions end up but could be a rough tournament weather wise as well.

  • superstars92

    ^Wow Greg Norman was the 54 hole leader. I actually hope weather is that bad because that gives more edge to the people (on here) who actually know about the weather.

  • WidumBoise

    Feels like a Blount week.

  • Wander_Bread

    @superstars92 said...

    ^Wow Greg Norman was the 54 hole leader. I actually hope weather is that bad because that gives more edge to the people (on here) who actually know about the weather.

    Yes at 53 years old he was the oldest person to hold the lead in a major after the 3rd round…… anddd that only lasted 1 year until Tom Watson in 09 did the same thing at age 58 or 59 and almost saw it through!

  • mgravity

    @BIF said...

    Pretty easy to make lineups – tons of good value in 9K range and even more value in the 6300-6600 range.

    Cink might be 25% owned at $6300

    Thanks to DK’s pricing I have a Cink pivot that I love – it’s someone who I’ve been tracking and borderline cyber stalking for about 6 weeks – I’m thinking he’ll be under 2% owned as well.

    Canadian? I have 4 pivots down there?

  • Cooper08

    • Blogger of the Month

    @BIF said...

    Pretty easy to make lineups – tons of good value in 9K range and even more value in the 6300-6600 range.

    Cink might be 25% owned at $6300

    Thanks to DK’s pricing I have a Cink pivot that I love – it’s someone who I’ve been tracking and borderline cyber stalking for about 6 weeks – I’m thinking he’ll be under 2% owned as well.

    I have about 8 pivots in that range, none are Americans. Not sure which ones I am going to jump on…can you tell the forum about Austin Connelly…..:)below are the others considering but need to dig deeper.
    Larrazabal
    Fox
    Tong-Li
    Bjork
    Southgate
    Drysdale, early favorite
    Suri

  • BIF

    @Cooper08 said...

    can you tell the forum about Austin Connelly…

    Seems like a silver spoon kid with really close ties to his overly involved parents.
    When I was researching him a couple years ago I found his mom to be a little too involved and borderline creepy on social media. His dad is his full time caddie or at least was earlier this year and for past year or so.

    He’s a Dual citizen (Canada and US) who uses the country that best benefits the situation – All I’ll say is that I’m not a fan of that. As an amateur in the same year 2014 he represented Canada in the Tailhade Cup with Corey Conners and then won the Jr Ryder Cup as an American.

    He knows Spieth pretty well as his US home is in Irving, Tx and claims he turned pro and foregone his full ride at Arkansas because of a conversation with Spieth – Connelly works with same teacher as Spieth (Cam McCormick) and has for about 7 years.

    Not sure he is worth considering despite playing in Europe most of this year

  • BIF

    @mgravity said...

    Canadian? I have 4 pivots down there?

    Not Canadian – my guy is a Euro

  • Cbed11

    @superstars92 said...

    Again, not choosing any players now, but I just looked at the pricing. Is there something wrong with Fleetwood’s pricing? I would have said 0% chance Fleetwood is priced higher than Hideki.

    Part of it his form. The other part is probably because he grew up within walking distance of the course.

  • Cooper08

    • Blogger of the Month

    @BIF said...

    Seems like a silver spoon kid with really close ties to his overly involved parents.
    When I was researching him a couple years ago I found his mom to be a little too involved and borderline creepy on social media. His dad is his full time caddie or at least was earlier this year and for past year or so.

    He’s a Dual citizen (Canada and US) who uses the country that best benefits the situation – All I’ll say is that I’m not a fan of that. As an amateur in the same year 2014 he represented Canada in the Tailhade Cup with Corey Conners and then won the Jr Ryder Cup as an American.

    He knows Spieth pretty well as his US home is in Irving, Tx and claims he turned pro and foregone his full ride at Arkansas because of a conversation with Spieth – Connelly works with same teacher as Spieth (Cam McCormick) and has for about 7 years.

    Not sure he is worth considering despite playing in Europe most of this year

    Thanks BIF, sounds like a yuppy from Beverley Hills.

  • mgravity

    @BIF said...

    Not Canadian – my guy is a Euro

    Hmmmmm, I did not have Canadian either.

  • timusbr

    I put a $1 200 person (top 20) in the main lobby for the Open Championship. Rotogrinders golf forum happy meal

  • Jamcclea

    Give me all the old guys for this one.

    Glad to see they priced Fleetwood higher. Really wouldn’t have surprised me if DK priced him at 7k

    As usual when Thomas Pieters is in the field I will ride or die with him.

  • DefinitelyMiami

    @mgravity said...

    Hmmmmm, I did not have Canadian either.

    So then why did you guess he was Canadian?
    “Canadian? I have 4 pivots down there?”

  • Frustrated

    Weather will obviously make a huge difference but Cam Smith and Hao-Tong Li look pretty good at 6,400 some potential salary cap relief right there.

    Edit- Just scrolling up and hell there’s plenty to choose from. Rafa’s right there at 6,700, Snedeker 6,800 oh well should be fun.

  • DefinitelyMiami

    @BIF said...

    Thanks to DK’s pricing I have a Cink pivot that I love – it’s someone who I’ve been tracking and borderline cyber stalking for about 6 weeks – I’m thinking he’ll be under 2% owned as well.

    rhymes with

  • BIF

    @DefinitelyMiami said...

    rhymes with

    Nope

  • hautalak

    • x2

      2021 Blogger of the Month

    This will be one time I actually listen to the weather and the favorable draw! Hoping for a bit of carnage that we did not get with the US Open.

  • mgravity

    @DefinitelyMiami said...

    So then why did you guess he was Canadian?
    “Canadian? I have 4 pivots down there?”

    BIF lives in the great white nort. And, I have played some Canadians that he turned us on to and made some money.

  • winnerchickendinner

    So a par 70 course has more par 3’s and less of the 4 and 5? Does it discount or help bombers? Still trying to get the golf terminology down pat as I go along.

  • BIF

    @winnerchickendinner said...

    So a par 70 course has more par 3’s and less of the 4 and 5? Does it discount or help bombers? Still trying to get the golf terminology down pat as I go along.

    Typically a Par 70 course would be a downgrade for the Bombers as the logic is there are less par 5’s for them to EAGLE/Birdie but in reality there are other aspects that drive a Bombers or non-Bombers course assumption. This includes (among other things) the length/shape of the holes (does it favour a longer hitter and can they hit Driver ?) or the tightness of the fairways and length of rough (Can a bomber just smash it and be ok or is here a penalty for inaccuracy).

    With respect to Par 72/71/71 courses, the normal make up of courses are:

    Par 72 would have 4 each of Par 3’s and 5’s along with 10 par 4’s

    Par 71 would have one less par 5 and 11 par 4’s

    Par 70 most have 4 par 3’s, 2 par 5’s and 12 par fours.

  • winnerchickendinner

    @BIF said...

    Typically a Par 70 course would be a downgrade for the Bombers as the logic is there are less par 5’s for them to EAGLE/Birdie but in reality there are other aspects that drive a Bombers or non-Bombers course assumption. This includes (among other things) the length/shape of the holes (does it favour a longer hitter and can they hit Driver ?) or the tightness of the fairways and length of rough (Can a bomber just smash it and be ok or is here a penalty for inaccuracy).

    With respect to Par 72/71/71 courses, the normal make up of courses are:

    Par 72 would have 4 each of Par 3’s and 5’s along with 10 par 4’s

    Par 71 would have one less par 5 and 11 par 4’s

    Par 70 most have 4 par 3’s, 2 par 5’s and 12 par fours.

    Cool beans bro thanks

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