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  • miamimunich

    real question is how owned will koepka be after ankle injury?

  • RangerC

    Zac Blair is 5600 at the Canadian Open and 6800 at the PGA Championship.

  • Cbed11

    Anyone look at the course setup? The two par 5s are holes 17 and 18.

  • nevergymless

    I’m confused about the pricing . Might have to take 2 of the top 3 with Grace and 2 scrubs .

  • billholler

    @nevergymless said...

    I’m confused about the pricing . Might have to take 2 of the top 3 with Grace and 2 scrubs .

    Bryce Molder is having a career year and has 5 top 10s so far and is $5700. Yet John Daly is $6600. Seriously? When’s the last time he even made a cut? BTW, Daly is only $100 less than Kevin fucking Na.

  • RangerC

    Vaughn Taylor is 6800 here and 5700 at the Canadian Open.

    Greg Chalmers is 6700 (I know he won the Barracuda but it’s still Greg Chalmers). Rikard Karlberg is 6600. Andy Sullivan is 6100, so is Molinari. Steele, Charlie Hoffman, and Kirk are 6000. Are we even trying?

  • bigdaddies

    crazy numbers on the pricing. You can take the top 15 and mix and match to win this dang thing. Geez, gonna get hammered by the sharks for this one unless Fred Sanford enters at 5500 and plays. Geez

  • walkoff9

    You cant make a “bad” lineup. DK really wants to get max entries to fill this thing.

  • deactivated66527

    Soft pricing = a lot of distractions/traps. I’m fine with it.

  • RangerC

    @dearmand said...

    Soft pricing = a lot of distractions/traps. I’m fine with it.

    Soft pricing for majors is OK I guess (the Open actually had a really nice mix of ownership, so if its uniform its OK). The problem is that it’s nonsensical and a good quarter of the field is mispriced. Look at all the guys at 20-30% ownership in the Canadian and all the guys from 8K-6.3 who are at virtually zero ownership because the pricing was so off.

    Look at the 6800-6600 range:

    You can have Greg Chalmers, Zac Blair, John Daly, Marcus Frazer, Vaughn Taylor and Rikard Karlberg OR Kevin Chappell, Daniel Berger (if he plays), Kevin Na, and Gary Woodland. Guys from the first group are going to be zero percent owned while the last 4 are going to be hugely owned in that salary range. The thing that makes PGA great is that 90% of the field is playable most weeks with decent pricing (some of the guys are only good for one-off cheap punts / contrarian plays, but at least there is a rationale for playing them). The pricing the last 2 weeks is eliminating up to a third of the field from any consideration.

  • flip4flop

    Since my week of PGA loos pretty rough might as well get a start on next week. Whats everyone thinking of important stats for this week?

  • Cbed11

    @flip4flop said...

    Whats everyone thinking of important stats for this week?

    Have not seen much info out there. But the focus seems to be primarily on getting the ball to the green. The fairways and greens look to be hard to hit, but it is a long par 70 course.

  • deactivated66527

    @RangerC said...

    Soft pricing for majors is OK I guess (the Open actually had a really nice mix of ownership, so if its uniform its OK). The problem is that it’s nonsensical and a good quarter of the field is mispriced. Look at all the guys at 20-30% ownership in the Canadian and all the guys from 8K-6.3 who are at virtually zero ownership because the pricing was so off.

    Look at the 6800-6600 range:

    You can have Greg Chalmers, Zac Blair, John Daly, Marcus Frazer, Vaughn Taylor and Rikard Karlberg OR Kevin Chappell, Daniel Berger (if he plays), Kevin Na, and Gary Woodland. Guys from the first group are going to be zero percent owned while the last 4 are going to be hugely owned in that salary range. The thing that makes PGA great is that 90% of the field is playable most weeks with decent pricing (some of the guys are only good for one-off cheap punts / contrarian plays, but at least there is a rationale for playing them). The pricing the last 2 weeks is eliminating up to a third of the field from any consideration.

    I agree somewhat but if you look at the 6k range, in general, they will be lower owned since they’re close to the bottom of the field and eat at each others’ ownership levels. Some players are no doubt grossly overpriced/underpriced at different ranges, but I want to use that to my advantage/other’s disadvantage.

    The prize structure of the Milly is what’s been getting at me lately more than anything else.

  • Dewoc19

    Wow, just looked at the pricing for the first time and that’s crazy, you could basically go studs and studs with the way it is

  • blue

    dufner or kisner?

  • miamimunich

    i think dufner is the safer pick but if you are doing doing a lot of lineups >25 i would sneak kisner on. Both are two of my three favorite golfers so im a little bias ;)

  • billholler

    For those that use a LU generator, you can make over 150 lineups using the top 30 salaried guys without stacking anyone and have every single player in at least 20 lineups. Of course if you won, you would be splitting it with about 25 other peeps.

  • blue

    @billholler said...

    For those that use a LU generator, you can make over 150 lineups using the top 30 salaried guys without stacking anyone and have every single player in at least 20 lineups. Of course if you won, you would be splitting it with about 25 other peeps.

    Yeah but who wants Bradley, Fitzpatrick and jimmy walker?

  • miamimunich

    @flip4flop said...

    Since my week of PGA loos pretty rough might as well get a start on next week. Whats everyone thinking of important stats for this week?

    Putting it in the fairway is a must. Recent PGAs have been a birdie fest but in 2005 scoring was low, I think the birdie average per round was something like 2. Opposite to the open’s opening 9, the front 9 at baltrusol played really hard in 2005. Also was ranked third hardest course that year, idk because of wind conditions, I would look back to see if wind played a factor because I think the hardest course that year was St. Andrews which can normally be a birdie fest. So the course should keep most people around par. That said I’m looking for a blend of guys. PGA championship has given mixed winner with different skill sets. Look at dufner and Bradley vs day and Mcilroy. I would build a mixed lineup. Was looking at past stats and no real exact skill set but that points to having a diversified lineup.

  • RangerC

    Weird thing is that the pricing is actually OK until you hit 7.7K (there are nitpicks, but that’s always the case) and then it just makes no sense the whole rest of the way. My problem is there’s no quality control apparently. Someone had to sign off on Schwartzel at 7.3K, and Sullivan, Molinari, Steele, Hoffman, and Kirk at 6.1-6.0K. We’re playing a crapload of rake and the product seems to be dropping in quality simultaneously.

  • RangerC

    BTW this is what crappy pricing does to a tournament:

    RBC Canadian:
    Brian Stuard – 7700 – .6%
    Billy Hurley III – 7700 – .6%
    Johnson Wagner – 7500 – .7%
    Adam Cornelson – 7400 – .24%
    Andres Gonzales – 7100 – 1.1%
    Rhein Gibson – 7000 – .06%
    Billy Kennerly – 7000 – .08%
    Robert Allenby – 6700 – .07%
    Steven Bowditch – 6700 – .16%
    Carlos Ortiz – 6700 – .07%

    You shouldn’t have guys from 7.7K to 6.7K with no ownership (and there were a bunch more, these were just guys who were obviously priced 1 to 2K more than comparable plays). It’s OK if guys in the trash bin 6K and below are zero owned. Almost HALF the guys from 7.7K to 6.7K were 1.2% owned or less.

  • Frustrated

    Just based on some videos this course kind of reminds me a roided up version of Oak Hill. Everything is pretty straight forward but the fairways are tight and tree lined. I was all set to fade Stenson 100% but now I’m not so sure he could be in the thick of things again.

  • deactivated66527

    What are the best tournaments in terms of prize structure for you guys?

  • lonestar2016

    I liked Molder on paper, but with such a bad showing at the canadian i don’t know…

  • TeamTwerk

    @RangerC said...

    Weird thing is that the pricing is actually OK until you hit 7.7K (there are nitpicks, but that’s always the case) and then it just makes no sense the whole rest of the way. My problem is there’s no quality control apparently. Someone had to sign off on Schwartzel at 7.3K, and Sullivan, Molinari, Steele, Hoffman, and Kirk at 6.1-6.0K. We’re playing a crapload of rake and the product seems to be dropping in quality simultaneously.

    You don’t think the 1427th ranked player in the world Rocco Mediate should be priced sandwiched between the 24th and 26th ranked players in the world?

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