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  • whodat2

    When: January 14-17

    Where: Honolulu, Hawaii

    Course: Waialae Country Club | A Par 70 playing at 7044 yards

    Last Year’s Winner: Cameron Smith at -11

    Last Year’s Cut: +1

    Coverage: Golf Channel

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    Happy Meal Cup 2021 Standings

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  • byo34

    Winner: Kisner
    Fade: The defending champ
    Sleeper: Harman

    Almost went Sneds but it’s too early in the year to start torturing myself.

  • noddy

    Is this a course where we can play Furyk?

    Also any thoughts on Kanaya?

  • jcotdl

    Kanaya is a full-go for me

  • BrianVT

    Johnny Vegas OUT

  • noddy

    Going to be great to watch golf 4 evenings again.

  • timusbr

    @noddy said...

    Going to be great to watch golf 4 evenings again.

    I hear you and I am glad you get the opportunity. I dont have anything against it but my favorite time period is waking up having coffee reading the forum and checking my guys. just such a good way to waste a morning.

  • MrBreeze

    any Fantasy National members having difficulty logging on? I keep getting directed to the “join” page for some reason.

  • MrBreeze

    Posting as a reminder to myself.

    Solid DNP 2021
    Mats
    Phil
    Rickie

    Call me out if you see them in my lineup so I can slap myself.

  • twopairsofones

    @MrBreeze said...

    any Fantasy National members having difficulty logging on? I keep getting directed to the “join” page for some reason.

    I was having the same problem last week. I think if you click on “sign in” on the main page (not the menu), it should work. I use auto sign in, so details are a little fuzzy.

  • kps3205s

    Just a reminder, if anyone would like to volunteer this week or for any other week for #BeattheForum feel free to message me directly or on the Beat the Forum page.

  • MrBreeze

    @twopairsofones said...

    I was having the same problem last week. I think if you click on “sign in” on the main page (not the menu), it should work. I use auto sign in, so details are a little fuzzy.

    still takes me to a page with plans, I am a founding member and renewed in September, this is very frustrating and I have not heard back from them yet

  • eruthruff

    @BrianVT said...

    Two metrics I grade my models on are R-squared and RMSE (Root Mean Squared Error). Both grade how well the predicted points fit to the actual points (in the historical data), but do it a little differently.

    I found something similar for the past correlations between actual vs predicted scores (not DK points). The Sony correlation is below average, though not as low as Honda / Safeway. The worst is the Players championship.

  • BrianVT

    @eruthruff said...

    I found something similar for the past correlations between actual vs predicted scores (not DK points). The Sony correlation is below average, though not as low as Honda / Safeway. The worst is the Players championship.

    Thanks for confirming. Sucks when you can’t really determine a “type” of golfer for a course. I always tell myself, though, that they’re just human beings playing the most difficult sport in the world, so I guess it makes sense that the correlations are generally always weak.

  • ifthethunder

    @BrianVT said...

    Thanks for confirming. Sucks when you can’t really determine a “type” of golfer for a course. I always tell myself, though, that they’re just human beings playing the most difficult sport in the world, so I guess it makes sense that that the correlations are generally always weak.

    The greens are Bermuda, like last week. So I guess you want people who putt well on those.

    But the course is shorter and tighter than last week…18 holes on 120 acres instead of 300. So GiR should probably be the most important stat.

    And as a tie-breaker, I’m using guys who played (well) here last week instead of those flying in and teeing it up for the first time this year.

    P.S. I’ll be playing Chuckie Three Sticks in any case. His form is rather meh, but course history is amazing for that salary.
    ~

  • Ricolasvegas

    Whats everyones fav play under 7K ? Gay, Norlander, Stuard… guys im kind of thinking about… Not sure who Y.E. Yang is but looks like he’s 6/6 at this tourney and is 6K

  • BrianVT

    @ifthethunder said...

    The greens are Bermuda, like last week. So I guess you want people who putt well on those.

    But the course is shorter and tighter than last week…18 holes on 120 acres instead of 300. So GiR should probably be the most important stat.

    And as a tie-breaker, I’m using guys who played (well) here last week instead of those flying in and teeing it up for the first time this year.
    ~

    Yep, those are all important.

    I still came up with a handful of stats that are important, and GIR is one of them (BOW and SGAPP are actually the most important), but the problem is the consistency/strength. So, you’re going to have a lot of guys who are awful at GIR and will play well this week, and vice versa. They may even have great GIR numbers in the tournament, but are currently showing as awful at GIR beforehand. So, from the data angle, there’s not much you can do with that happening very often historically.

    This would probably be a great tournament to be at, where you can watch some practice rounds, watch what guys are working on at the range/practice green, maybe overhear somebody saying they’re struggling or doing well with something, etc. It’s like the guys who bet on the horse that takes a big crap on the way to the gates. You need something to go by. Otherwise, it’s just called gambling.

  • Money0227

    It can obviously change, but it’s looking like Thurs PM / Fri AM has the wind advantage. Most of the guys I like this week happen to fall in that half anyway, so it’s just an added feel-good vibe for me.

  • titanhawks

    Just finished my cascading-core of 20 LU’s in the Short Game and am interested to see how this works out

    Did everything by hand as I learned nothing about uploading files or most any other computer stuff but I can make and change LU’s lol

    After the after-view it seems I like many more of my other LU’s better than my core but that is expected I guess as second-guessing burns up the whole pre-tourney week quickly

    And speaking of RickRunGood he did a great article on golfdigest.com with Shane Ryan talking about which stats were the most important to success last year. I don’t know how to link it to here but it can be found on thier site

  • noddy

    @Ricolasvegas said...

    Whats everyones fav play under 7K ? Gay, Norlander, Stuard… guys im kind of thinking about… Not sure who Y.E. Yang is but looks like he’s 6/6 at this tourney and is 6K

    Ghim? Malnati?

  • noddy

    Anyone playing golf on jock market?

  • mitchsnyderdfw

    @noddy said...

    Anyone playing golf on jock market?

    I have tried that and just can’t seem to figure it out. I think I need to watch more videos on how it exactly works

  • BIF

    @Ricolasvegas said...

    Not sure who Y.E. Yang is

    Just the guy who took down Tiger and won the 2009 PGA Championship at Hazeltine then lifted his golf bag over his head with extended arms like it was the Stanley Cup !

    https://youtu.be/BrL5WKmzDGE

  • Ricolasvegas

    @noddy said...

    Ghim? Malnati?

    I like that Ghim call

  • Ricolasvegas

    @BIF said...

    Just the guy who took down Tiger and won the 2009 PGA Championship at Hazeltine then lifted his golf bag over his head with extended arms like it was the Stanley Cup !

    https://youtu.be/BrL5WKmzDGE

    LOL… oh that guy ! Yeah not so sure if I’ll go there…

  • BrianVT

    Ghim will probably be the highest ownership sub $7k, but hopefully not.

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