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  • MoMo662

    Seems like nowadays you can’t win without stacking.

    I used to do my research for the best players at their position on the slate.
    Now………My mindset seems to be all about stacking.

    How about you??

  • 2021Labs

    I stack pretty often, but i do it more from the angle of getting as much exposure to offenses facing pitchers with blow up potential. If a pitcher gets smashed by lefties, i want the good lefties in the opposing lineup. If he gets smashed AND gives up a lot of walks, I want exposure to the entire lineup.
    I typically find myself targeting players from a small handful of offenses, and trying to find the highest floor/ceiling combo using the players on those teams with lefty/eighty splits in their favor. If that winds up leaving me with a stack, then that’s what i roll with.
    However, in cash lineups i do make a conscious effort not to go too heavy on one teams lineup. If they get shut down, the lineup is sunk. Spread the love between the top offenses a little to give yourself a little less risk.

  • KindGuy

    If you’re trying to win a GPP, then yes stacking is probably the most efficient way.

    Cash games, it’s not as necessary unless a chalk offense goes apeshit. Then you’re kinda screwed if you don’t have some exposure to that team.

  • divusjulius

    • Blogger of the Month

    why would you stop doing research because you stacked???

  • MoMo662

    @divusjulius said...

    why would you stop doing research because you stacked???

    I’m not – all i’m saying is my research seems to have shifted to stacking as opposed to not caring if I have 9 guys from 9 different teams,

  • MoMo662

    @elementasrat said...

    If you’re trying to win a GPP, then yes stacking is probably the most efficient way.

    Seems like it’s the ONLY way.
    So do you think a GPP win can come without stacking??

  • PimpDaddyDragonSlayer

    @MoMo662 said...

    Seems like it’s the ONLY way.
    So do you think a GPP win can come without stacking??

    Only in small slates, 2 or 3 game slates can you win GPP’s without stacking. If you’re playing main slates then its ALMOST impossible to win without stacking. Jon Bales mentions this in his newest DFS baseball book. I dont stack in cash games, but in GPPs not stacking is donating.

  • jdtrey

    @PimpDaddyDragonSlayer said...

    Only in small slates, 2 or 3 game slates can you win GPP’s without stacking. If you’re playing main slates then its ALMOST impossible to win without stacking. Jon Bales mentions this in his newest DFS baseball book. I dont stack in cash games, but in GPPs not stacking is donating.

    While I agree that stacking is usually the optimal strategy in tournaments, saying it’s almost impossible to win a GPP without stacking is just flat out wrong. Check out some of the recent winners of $1 and $3 GPPs – because of the abundance of HRs this year more and more often you’ll see people with completely uncorrelated lineups that just happened to hit 8-10 or even more HRs

  • KindGuy

    @MoMo662 said...

    Seems like it’s the ONLY way.
    So do you think a GPP win can come without stacking??

    Of course it CAN happen. It’s still not optimal though. Predicting which 8 non teammates are going to dong is near impossible consistently. Better to target offenses in good spots and then work your stacks in.

  • joerapjr

    The problem with not stacking is that, in baseball, it’s very hard to select 8 individual batters that will all post big games on separate teams.

    Given the variance of the sport of baseball, it’s much easier to pinpoint a team that is in an exceptionally good spot and hope that multiple players on that team feed off their teammates and have great games.

  • PimpDaddyDragonSlayer

    @jdtrey said...

    While I agree that stacking is usually the optimal strategy in tournaments, saying it’s almost impossible to win a GPP without stacking is just flat out wrong. Check out some of the recent winners of $1 and $3 GPPs – because of the abundance of HRs this year more and more often you’ll see people with completely uncorrelated lineups that just happened to hit 8-10 or even more HRs

    Ehh.. Lets agree to disagree, yes this is has worked recently for some, but over the course of a season your EV would be much higher if you stack rather than use a ton of one offs hoping they hit home runs.

  • divusjulius

    • Blogger of the Month

    @MoMo662 said...

    I’m not – all i’m saying is my research seems to have shifted to stacking as opposed to not caring if I have 9 guys from 9 different teams,

    ah well that is good thing. if you’re picking the best spots and mixing your exposure well you should see positive returns from that

  • NESBears120

    What I have found that works for me on FanDuel is a 4×2×2 with a one off pitcher

  • KindGuy

    @NESBears120 said...

    What I have found that works for me on FanDuel is a 4×2×2 with a one off pitcher

    Yea, Fanduel is a whole different ball game. The optimal stack over there is a 4-1-1-1-1.

    4-4 lineups rarely take down the big GPPS. There are a multitude of reasons for this.

  • NESBears120

    That’s probably one reason I’ve been slumping on fd I’ve been trying to do a lot of 4×4 with a 1-4 stack and a bottom of the order stack

  • bigez952

    I don’t think there is such thing as a optimal strategy that will work for every slate all year long since every slate is so different. My best advice I have received was never to force stacks and play bat hitters over good ones in good spots on other teams just because you feel you need to have a stack. Many days stacks just come naturally based on weather or a bad pitcher.

  • celtics2448

    I use 3×3×2 stacks on FanDuel almost 90% of the time and i’ve had a fairly good season to date. I noticed that winners of the larger GPPs almost always have a 4×4 stack (when i play them, that is) so i tried that for a few slates and it didn’t work out all that well. I have no problem with a one off, but i don’t think i’ll ever enter an MLB GPP without a stack, it’s just an unnecessary risk

  • jtkucheck

    @joerapjr said...

    Given the variance of the sport of baseball, it’s much easier to pinpoint a team that is in an exceptionally good spot and hope that multiple players on that team feed off their teammates and have great games.

    This is probably less about “feeding off teammates” and more about a bad pitcher being bad against everyone who gets to hit against him, and subsequently an even worse combination of pitchers pitching the rest of the game.

    There is obviously an aggregate benefit for having multiple players score points on the same play (Walk, Double, 3-run HR), but that’s likely not because the players see their teammates doing well and decide to play better, it is likely because their competition is bad and they are all in a good spot to succeed.

    Brewers yesterday are a perfect example of this- the obvious names (Shaw, Braun, Pina, Villar) were all highly owned, but I got a 30 pt game out of Jesus Aguilar at 3.9% because I had the 5 man and everyone else stopped at 4.

    More PAs against worse pitching is always an optimal situation… stack away!

  • Olhausen

    While stacking is definitely effective there’s no doubt non stacked lineup’s are taking down tournaments a lot more then 2 years ago. That said I always do 5 man stacks on dk and 4 mans on fan duel.

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