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  • briguy13

    For those who haven’t played Victiv NBA yet, they have an interesting solution to the late swap debate. They don’t allow late swap, but they do have a 9th roster spot for a substitute. The player must have a salary of $5K or lower and then your total score is your best 8 players (said another way, if your sub outscores anybody in your starting line-up, you get his score instead). So if you have a late scratch (or a complete dud of a game) you don’t wind up with a zero. Last night I dodged Olynyk’s terrible game and swapped in Taj Gibson’s.

    How would you guys approach this format from a strategy perspective? Would you “back up” one of your starters with his real life back up or just pick another high-upside value play? How else does this format change how you construct line-ups? Any difference between GPPs and head to head?

  • detroittigers44

    I kind of feel like with GPP’s you want to put a relatively safe player in that sub spot… Now in the case of a GPP, you might be more willing to risk a player like a Olynyk, who is foul prone, if you put someone like an Asik in your lineup that is a pretty safe bet for 20 points. If Olynyk does what he did last night, you are subbing out that 1 pt for a safer 20 points, huge gain. Now same in a cash game, however you might want to take a high upside play as your sub if you are constructing the other members of your roster in the “safe“category. If that sub blows up, then you willl benefit as he will most likely outscore one of the less exciting options in your lineup.. Just my two cents.

  • detroittigers44

    In that example above, let me clarify… I would put Asik in the sub spot and Olynyk in the lineup… If Olynyk tanks like last night, then you have a safe 20 sitting there waiting to sub in.

  • Myprimetime

    I think the boom-bust strategy is to take a min salary guy in your regular lineup and then whoever is below $5k that you think will get the most points. In this scenario you can increase your total “salary” from the cap of $50k to $53k ($5k sub minus $2k min floor).

    HOWEVER – That doesn’t take into account variability of the players you draft with that excess $3k. It’s an interesting set up due to variance in player performance. Would you rather have 3 players around $5k, and hope 2 go off/exceed projections, or one guy at $2k, one guy at $8k, and one guy at $5k and now need the $8k to perform to his salary and the $5k guy to perform well.

    Love the setup due to the strategy involved (and fact that if you do get hit with late scratch you don’t need to be at a computer to switch or totally effed).

  • detroittigers44

    I like it too, especially for cash game as having that one zero can sink you.

  • briguy13

    I love it right now because it made me money last night. Will have to see how I like it the first time the other guy wins because of it…but definitely a good middle ground as far as late swap goes.

  • Matthew

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    For anyone looking to try it in a GP tomorrow we’ll be running the following:

    $1,000 Tip-Off Freeroll
    $2,500 Fadeaway GP
    $500 Finger Roll GP

    Signup by clicking VICTIV here through RotoGrinders.

  • detroittigers44

    Hey Matthew, it looks like Derrick Favors is missing from the player pool today?

  • detroittigers44

    Sorry nevermind, I had a filter set up here and it wasn’t displaying all the players properly…

  • 8MileAllstars

    I think it makes guys like Bledsoe a bit more usable because if he puts up a dud you’ve got some insurance and if he goes off you’re off to a good start.

  • jmartin1344

    Basically my take, similar to myprimetime is that I set my lineup as I usually do – if I’m struggling with those last few salary spots, I then look for a guy in my starting lineup who I really liked, but is under 5k, and has a guy at that position (or Flex, so all positions) that is MUCH cheaper. I put the guy I had starting into the sub spot, and put the cheap risky pick in instead. This way I’ve saved some cap to help me get over those cap struggles.

    That being said, even if I construct the roster without any problems, I then look for an opportunity to upgrade big time at a particular spot, if there is a similar sub 5k guy in my lineup somewhere.

  • detroittigers44

    So far having Shumpert in my sub spot is looking like a decent play.

  • Myprimetime

    Any consensus for their GPPs or the freeroll?

    Can multi-enter the GPPs to try a few different techniques but can’t decide what to go with on the freeroll.

  • briguy13

    Another night where the sub helped me out, replacing Korver with Kanter. Think I’m a fan.

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