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  • Chance

    I saw this on Twitter:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg2EgcOW0AAoXpf.jpg

    Does anyone know if this offer is valid for all DK users who exceed these thresholds?

  • Cobra_Kai

    I would think its only for folks that got that email. Thats how most of their promotions work.

  • MrFantasy

    My offer was different then the one you are seeing on Twitter.

    Over the next 2 weeks starting on Tuesday, April 26th and culminating on Friday, May 6th we will be running some of our biggest MLB and PGA contests of the season beginning with the $150 buy-in $500k Grand Slam Special on Tuesday, a $1 million guaranteed $300 buy-in Home Run on May 3rd, and much more including our largest 3-max contests ever! To help you take full advantage of all the action in store on the #1 DFS site to play Fantasy Baseball and Golf, we have a special offer for you below.

    For every 15 entries in MLB or PGA guaranteed contests with a buy-in of $300 or more, between Monday, April 25th and Friday, May 6th, you will receive 1 free $300 ticket, up to a maximum of 10 free tickets. Tickets will be credited to your account on Monday May 2nd for the $1 million Home Run on May 3rd and again on Monday May 9th for a $300 contest of your choice.

    So I guess my offer is better as I will get $300 tickets after only $4500 in buy ins. Problem is I don’t play much MLB and I don’t play $300+ PGA contests often.

  • Chance

    Am I only the one who thinks it is a bit shady only select people receive these offers?

  • aka_the_goat

    How is it shady? It’s no different than a casino sending offers to their biggest players.

  • stv1313

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    Has Mr. Fantasy already earned a $300 ticket to the May 3rd contest? I understand that he’ll earn a $300 ticket if we wagers $4,500 by May 6th, but I’m not quite sure what (if anything) he needs to do to earn the May 3rd ticket.

  • emac

    @Chance said...

    Am I only the one who thinks it is a bit shady only select people receive these offers?

    They are likely targeting different players with varying offers based on their level of play so it is not going to be an across the board special.

    Additionally, there are often offers from the sites if you stop playing or play sporadically (i.e. the FanDuel “top up”) or special play five in xxxxx contest and get a bonus ticket (this seems to happen more on sites other than the big two).

    EMac

  • czaz

    1. totally different than a casino offering players money. When casinos give players slot or match play, they are using it against the house, not other players who are using their own money.
    2. This is nothing like FD top off.

    In my opinion, this is not something that should be happening, and is another example of the true 1% club that the industry caters to

  • Chance

    @czaz said...

    1. totally different than a casino offering players money. When casinos give players slot or match play, they are using it against the house, not other players who are using their own money.
    2. This is nothing like FD top off.

    In my opinion, this is not something that should be happening, and is another example of the true 1% club that the industry caters to

    Exactly, so DK is giving away free tickets to people who will be competing with me in these contests. DK should not be in any way providing select players with edges.

  • MrFantasy

    @Chance said...

    Exactly, so DK is giving away free tickets to people who will be competing with me in these contests. DK should not be in any way providing select players with edges.

    I wont be getting any free entries anyways as I don’t play $300+ buy ins for MLB or PGA. My bet is that this offer has been sent out to high volume NBA players that they hope will boost up their play in MLB/PGA in order to qualify for this promotion.

    I don’t see why them making these offers available to players is a big deal. How is Draftkings giving players any edge with this promotion? It isn’t giving anyone an edge at all, just a free ticket(s).

  • tvsfrink

    C’mon, everyone knows you score more points with free entries.

  • aka_the_goat

    @MrFantasy said...

    How is Draftkings giving players any edge with this promotion? It isn’t giving anyone an edge at all, just a free ticket(s)

    Yeah, I don’t exactly understand the giving players an “edge” argument either. I think rewarding loyalty and improving VIP offers is good for DFS. It’s not like they are giving people a higher salary cap.

    Plus, I doubt their offer program is as arbitrary as it may seem. I’m sure everyone who qualified at a specific dollar amount received the offer. I don’t think DK is just going around offering free tix to the players they “like” more.

  • czaz

    @MrFantasy said...

    I wont be getting any free entries anyways as I don’t play $300+ buy ins for MLB or PGA. My bet is that this offer has been sent out to high volume NBA players that they hope will boost up their play in MLB/PGA in order to qualify for this promotion.

    I don’t see why them making these offers available to players is a big deal. How is Draftkings giving players any edge with this promotion? It isn’t giving anyone an edge at all, just a free ticket(s).

    “edge” has nothing to do with it, obviously they have no better or worse chance to win said tournament with a free entry. Clearly that is not the point

  • smiters

    Lets keep it simple…I Spend $300 and get 1 entry in the Milly…Mr. VIP spends $300 and gets 11 entries…whose odds are better?

  • ocdobv

    @Chance said...

    Exactly, so DK is giving away free tickets to people who will be competing with me in these contests. DK should not be in any way providing select players with edges.

    Free entries would actually weaken competition. Some might forget about it. Some might play a weaker lineup because they don’t see themselves as having any skin in the game. Really, the only way it could hurt anyone is if there would have been overlay without the freebies.

  • louiescards

    DK KoTH winner

    @smiters said...

    Lets keep it simple…I Spend $300 and get 1 entry in the Milly…Mr. VIP spends $300 and gets 11 entries…whose odds are better?

    Not sure if serious.

  • ocdobv

    @smiters said...

    Lets keep it simple…I Spend $300 and get 1 entry in the Milly…Mr. VIP spends $300 and gets 11 entries…whose odds are better?

    Sure, if you ignore the other $75,000 the player spent.

  • czaz

    I do think DK should be incentivizing high volume players, it makes all the sense in the world. Maybe they should host a tournament just for those people. I just think granting free entries into tournaments against other paying players is not “fair” to other non high volume players who play in these contests.

  • Shipmymoney

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    @smiters said...

    Lets keep it simple…I Spend $300 and get 1 entry in the Milly…Mr. VIP spends $300 and gets 11 entries…whose odds are better?

    His because he is most likely better than you to have built a bankroll big enough to go through ~75k in buyins in 2 weeks. I don’t see the issue with this. If you have a free entry, it in no way affects the EV of my entry. Just seems like people complaining just to have something to complain about imo

  • scoop85

    @smiters said...

    Lets keep it simple…I Spend $300 and get 1 entry in the Milly…Mr. VIP spends $300 and gets 11 entries…whose odds are better?

    Uh oh…………the common theme of all ME games……………

    I agree wit you…guess what? ME is not fantasy sports.

  • scoop85

    @czaz said...

    I do think DK should be incentivizing high volume players, it makes all the sense in the world. Maybe they should host a tournament just for those people. I just think granting free entries into tournaments against other paying players is not “fair” to other non high volume players who play in these contests.

    It contagious….ME is not fantasy sports

  • Razzle11

    @scoop85 said...

    It contagious….ME is not fantasy sports

    How many season long fantasy football leagues do you play in?

  • mjordantmac

    • 2016 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Yeah… I also got the same offer but spending thousands in that time frame. I guess it depends on the player and their volume.

  • Heterodox

    @ocdobv said...

    Free entries would actually weaken competition. Some might forget about it. Some might play a weaker lineup because they don’t see themselves as having any skin in the game. Really, the only way it could hurt anyone is if there would have been overlay without the freebies.

    Sorry but this doesn’t hold up. When the free entry is to a $3 contest with a 100k field, sure, because people know their odds of winning even $6 are fairly small.

    When we’re talking about a big money contest with a much smaller field, I don’t think this applies so much. Especially when the free entries aren’t going to non-players to get them in the door, but to high-volume, EV-conscious players.

    I’m not on the “it’s not fair” side, but I’m leaning their way. It’s at least distasteful, and a bad look.

    One thing I’d like to see more of is big money contests to which you must earn access by winning tickets. As with the live finals, there would still be an advantage for a skilled player who has a bigger bankroll than another skilled player, but no one would be able to just buy their way in, and smaller players would have more opportunities to reap bigger rewards.

  • BeltWieldindad

    -Complains that draftkings/fanduel doesnt give out free stuff enough
    -Complains when draftkings gives out 300 dollar tickets as a reward to high volume players because they cant play high enough volume*.

  • sethayates

    @czaz said...

    I do think DK should be incentivizing high volume players, it makes all the sense in the world. Maybe they should host a tournament just for those people. I just think granting free entries into tournaments against other paying players is not “fair” to other non high volume players who play in these contests.

    They aren’t really giving “free entries” they are giving high-volume guys some of their rake back.

    Here is a screenshot one volume player posted. Yes, that is $146K in entries in one day. If you assume 10% rake (most contests are closer to 15%) then said player paid $14K in rake. That was in one day. The most they can get back from this offer is 10 tickets worth $300 each and that’s if they play $75,000 in entries ($7500 in rake).

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