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  • whodat2

    When: Feb 2-5

    Where: Scottsdale, Arizona

    Course: TPC Scottsdale (Stadium), 7,266 yards, par 71. This is the course where the raucous crowd is loud as hell either cheering you or booing you.

    Last Year’s Winner: Hideki Matsuyama (-14) in a playoff over Rickie Fowler.

    Last Year’s Cut: Even

    Coverage: PGATourLive | Golf Channel | CBS | Shot tracker – YES

  • MattNielsen89

    @Kjwhalen77 said...

    Is it just me, or does the payout structure of the $5 50K Eagle seem very unattractive? 4% payoff to 1st ($2,000), while paying all the way out to the top 27% of the field?

    I wish they had this setup last week when I got 4th place for $500 lol.. This week 4th place will win $750. But I see your point.

  • SelfCharmer

    Also, ignoring peoples views on salary pricing:

    Do you think DK made it “softer” and easier to build a LU to cater to the Multi-sport cross over?

    It concludes this Thursday, with PGA

  • medlund

    @SelfCharmer said...

    Do you think DK made it “softer” and easier to build a LU to cater to the Multi-sport cross over?

    Hopefully there are lots of people that do not know much about golf and all of us here win all the monies!

  • BIF

    @bigdaddies said...

    You guys are good!
    This week, for me is about as soft of pricing as I have seen, so what did I do?
    I did not look at the pricing and picked 6 golfers, got into the birdie, dropped them in and said, “what did I just do?” Left alot of money on the table….smh.
    Time for the weejee board to come out! :)

    I normally don’t care about pricing as I previously stated but this was interesting:

    I made one lineup (that I may not even use) but it contains 6 golfers in the Top 35 in the Official World Golf Rankings (OWGR) that left over 6500 on the table

    I was able to make another lineup of 6 players outside the Top 75 in the OWGR that almost hit the cap.

    There is some real badly priced individuals this week – again I don’t really care as nothing in golf is a true 100% definitive indicator of future performance in a given week.

    Poor (and early) pricing last week by DK made it possible for me to have one of my best golf weeks in about 3 months (whenever Gribble won anyways). Last week we got early pricing and because of that Swafford was still priced pre-win cheaply and I faded as I don’t ever play US players in the week immediately after their first win; it paid off as Swaff missed his first cut in almost a year and his ownership was inflated by low pricing and recency bias. Same goes with Laird albeit he made the cut and MDF’d in T74 after Saturday; he was priced lower than he should have been, I didn’t like him at Torrey so my fade benefited by his high ownership driven by bad pricing. Now on the opposite side of that equation was Howell who was one of my core golfers that I wasn’t going to fade and unfortunately he was cheap so had high ownership – that doesn’t matter if you own and he outperforms value which he did finishing 2nd.

    This week I still have to decide what I’m doing with a couple guys – I originally circled 36 names on Sunday night which I’ll trim to 22-28 by late tonight and play somewhere between 30-50 lineups. A couple of the guys I circled in absence of prices on Sunday are going to be highly owned because of bad pricing; I’ll probably still play 75-85% of those guys but I don’t want any all-chalk rosters so a couple will have to be faded or just used as a pivot on only a couple lineups.

    My strategy in DFS golf is to NEVER intentionally own someone at the same ownership rate as the field. I either want to own a lot more of someone than the field does or else I want zero to very little. You don’t benefit or make any money doing what everyone else does across all 6 roster spots.

  • astauty

    @BIF said...

    I normally don’t care about pricing as I previously stated but this was interesting:

    I made one lineup (that I may not even use) but it contains 6 golfers in the Top 35 in the Official World Golf Rankings (OWGR) that left over 6500 on the table

    I was able to make another lineup of 6 players outside the Top 75 in the OWGR that almost hit the cap.

    There is some real badly priced individuals this week – again I don’t really care as nothing in golf is a true 100% definitive indicator of future performance in a given week.

    Poor (and early) pricing last week by DK made it possible for me to have one of my best golf weeks in about 3 months (whenever Gribble won anyways). Last week we got early pricing and because of that Swafford was still priced pre-win cheaply and I faded as I don’t ever play US players in the week immediately after their first win; it paid off as Swaff missed his first cut in almost a year and his ownership was inflated by low pricing and recency bias. Same goes with Laird albeit he made the cut and MDF’d in T74 after Saturday; he was priced lower than he should have been, I didn’t like him at Torrey so my fade benefited by his high ownership driven by bad pricing. Now on the opposite side of that equation was Howell who was one of my core golfers that I wasn’t going to fade and unfortunately he was cheap so had high ownership – that doesn’t matter if you own and he outperforms value which he did finishing 2nd.

    This week I still have to decide what I’m doing with a couple guys – I originally circled 36 names on Sunday night which I’ll trim to 22-28 by late tonight and play somewhere between 30-50 lineups. A couple of the guys I circled in absence of prices on Sunday are going to be highly owned because of bad pricing; I’ll probably still play 75-85% of those guys but I don’t want any all-chalk rosters so a couple will have to be faded or just used as a pivot on only a couple lineups.

    My strategy in DFS golf is to NEVER intentionally own someone at the same ownership rate as the field. I either want to own a lot more of someone than the field does or else I want zero to very little. You don’t benefit make any money doing what everyone else does across all 6 roster spots.

    so… Rahm is a bad choice? ha

  • BIF

    With respect to this week’s course the TPC Scottsdale, here are some tidbits:

    - average score on this golf score is usually right at Even Par 71

    - the Front nine (par 35) usually play just a shade Over par on average because of only 1 par 5

    - the Back nine (par 36) usually plays just a shade Under par despite having 2 par 5’s and the driveable short par 4 17th hole

    - only 5 holes on the golf course averaged Under Par last year, four of those are on the back nine !

    - the 3 par fives are the 3 easiest scoring holes along with par fours #17 and #10

    - while the Back Nine yields many more birdies, there is a few holes where bogeys, doubles and even the odd triple bogey can happen; the crazy par 3 16th has more bogies than birdies each year; then on the short driveable par 4 17th we’ll see everything from Eagle to Double bogey but usually a lot of birds; and finally #18 gives up the odd birdie but par is a good score and last year there were multiple double and triple bogies here.

    Enjoy the madness that is the Waste Management Open !

  • BIF

    @astauty said...

    so… Rahm is a bad choice? ha

    He’s not a US (born) player

    I’m still on the fence – lots of narratives to play him with the ASU connection, Course history, recent form/win, etc

  • alyeska_skibum

    @Jamcclea said...

    Anyone else in the Cross Sport this afternoon? Can someone give me some Soccer tips… I know zero. ZERO about soccer.

    Join the club, Soccer isn’t a real sport so theres no shame in not knowing about it.
    I cheated and went here to get tips.
    https://draftkingsfc.com/daily-research/epl-targets-january-31st/

  • Tour_Junkies

    Rahm finished 3 shots from winning here 2 years ago as an Amateur. ASU connection is strong. He’s chalky, but sometimes you have to have the chalk in your LU to win. See last week when Rahm and CH3 finished 1st & 2nd. Differentiate elsewhere and play Rahm this week.

  • bigdaddies

    BIF, you read my mind. All last year, it was so tempting week in and week out to see the chalk and one or two would die on the vine. This week, having been to Phoenix more than I care to say, this could be a fun week to make a little money. I still see this week like last week, with the exception, I can’t get away from putting which slams Webb off my list. Accuracy is so key to me, and if you took the top 20 in that stat, wow, does your lineup look crazy. KJ Choi will be there this week, IMHO.

  • SelfCharmer

    Think I am going to roll out an all Asian LU this week

  • BIF

    @Tour_Junkies said...

    Rahm finished 3 shots from winning here 2 years ago as an Amateur. ASU connection is strong. He’s chalky, but sometimes you have to have the chalk in your LU to win. See last week when Rahm and CH3 finished 1st & 2nd. Differentiate elsewhere and play Rahm this week.

    That’s what I was trying to get at; I was not getting off CH3 last week regardless of ownership but you can’t have 6 chalk guys on a lineup. It’s easy to differentiate.

  • JimKronlund

    @bigdaddies said...

    You guys are good!
    This week, for me is about as soft of pricing as I have seen, so what did I do?
    I did not look at the pricing and picked 6 golfers, got into the birdie, dropped them in and said, “what did I just do?” Left alot of money on the table….smh.
    Time for the weejee board to come out! :)

    Thats perfectly logical and there is nothing wrong with that strategy.
    Edit: Bif explained this in detail already.

  • timusbr

    @SelfCharmer said...

    Think I am going to roll out an all Asian LU this week

    not so many months ago last year the all asian LU kicked a little azz, but few people were on it.(till the following week)

  • JimKronlund

    https://www.draftkings.com/contest/draftteam/37196564?eid=665578370
    RG SOCCER BY JIMK BY JIMKRONLUND

  • JimKronlund

    No Tim I have not downloaded my history.

  • JimKronlund

    If I have Rahm I will have very little of him. Hard to follow up that performance when your a rookie. He looked like a first grader that just got a battleship for his birthday. And so he should. Hard to duplicate that 1 week later.

  • Wander_Bread

    @JimKronlund said...

    If I have Rahm I will have very little of him. Hard to follow up that performance when your a rookie. He looked like a first grader that just got a battleship for his birthday. And so he should. Hard to duplicate that 1 week later.

    Totally on board with you man.

  • MattNielsen89

    Damn, I am completely the opposite of you guys.. I thought he looked super composed and poised going into 18. Like Jim said, of course he Is going to go nuts when he made the putt, he all but won the tourney with that stroke. He had plenty of time to register it all and enjoy it even before he officially won. I think the dude is about as poised and savvy as a Rookie could be. Love this dude. Luckily I was on him the 1 week the public seemed to be off, but idc if he is CH3 level this week, I will still be all over him at that price.

  • walkoff9

    I always fade the previous weeks winner when its a lower level player. When its a stud guy i have no problem playing them.

    Which makes it tricky this week. Stud talent but first win and hasnt really had other top finishes but obviously has shown flashes of brilliance at times before the win.

  • timusbr

    I am looking for a TFF guy who wants to do a postmortem on this weeks events.

    specificly I want to look at the final leaderboard and the stat rankings we saw and used in our analysis.
    TFF is 4 weeks old for me. I feel it would be beneficial to get other peoples perspective on what they see and why in order to get better. expert or novice like me doesnt matter.
    If your OK with it, I would like to make the phone call.

    DM me if interested

  • JimKronlund

    Check your soccer LU’s. 36 min to close.

  • Jamcclea

    @JimKronlund said...

    Check your soccer LU’s. 36 min to close.

    Thank you. Almost started a goalie not starting today.

  • JimKronlund

    @Jamcclea said...

    Thank you. Almost started a goalie not starting today.

    Well at least he would not have been scored upon ;>/

  • Vikingtiger

    @Jamcclea said...

    Thank you. Almost started a goalie not starting today.

    Don’t you mean keeper? This isn’t hockey, haha. Just trying to save you the ridicule of some soccer err football fanatic.

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