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  • whodat2

    When: February 1-4

    Where: Scottsdale, Arizona

    Course: TPC Scottsdale | A par 71 playing at 7261 yards

    Last Year’s Winner: Hideki Matsuyama at -17

    Last Year’s Cut: -1

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  • lfn1992

    Me in EURO

  • timusbr

    @kbarnhill7523 said...

    Maybe I should just PayPal you guys money this week?

    LOL, from the things you have said this week either you or me will be at the bottom.

    myself I couldnt use the 2 star approach. I think any one of the top 4 is a good play.
    the bottom of the salary range is what concerns me. I have a 6800(Lahiri) and a 6900(Na) in my LU’s. All the others in that bottom bin, you can keep them. So I was forced(seriosly someone twisted my arm) to go with Jon Rahm. The 7400-7600 range….wow who cant you like. + I like some of the 2nd tier. probably more than I should.

  • NickDiesel316

    So we are playing two top tier guys like spieth and Fowler and then mid tier guys. Got it

  • dangasin

    @Quadhole said...

    From Josh (Culp’s Corner) : Also, keep an eye on AM/PM weather since temperatures in this area, at this time of year, can fluctuate dramatically from morning to afternoon. This is one of the rare weeks on TOUR where a PM wave could have a lower scoring average (due to temperature, not wind). Since 2003, there have been 22 golfers that led/co-led after R1, with 12 of them starting before 10 AM and the other 10 starting after Noon.

    I buy it…

    I am not understand that sentence. 12/22 were from the morning shift, 10/22 were from later shift? That is basically 50/50 right?

  • timusbr

    @bgraffunder said...

    Scottsdale, Golf, Beer, Sunshine. Sounds dreamy to us Minnesotans.

    LOL your first week back…3 weeks ago Hawaii was looking SWEEEEEEET.

  • bgraffunder

    @timusbr said...

    LOL your first week back…3 weeks ago Hawaii was looking SWEEEEEEET.

    I put in Cash lineups but wasn’t around here. Feels nice to have downtime to chat with you fellas again! Should be around now through August before I get swamped again.

  • bgraffunder

    Paige Spiranic (sp?) just put it much closer than List. I knew there was a reason List was on my do-not-play-EVER list.

  • timusbr

    BG, you going to the superbowl, you crashing any the pre bowl stuff?

  • bgraffunder

    @timusbr said...

    BG, you going to the superbowl, you crashing any the pre bowl stuff?

    Yup, I’ve been to the pre-bowl stuff and it is incredible. I can imagine the southerners aren’t to happy here though. It has been freezing here this year and this weekend people will get a nice taste of Minnesota winters.

  • Cooper08

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    @dangasin said...

    I am not understand that sentence. 12/22 were from the morning shift, 10/22 were from later shift? That is basically 50/50 right?

    What is being said is watch out for the pm wave this week as they could provide the day one leader which isn’t typical as usually the first round leader is from the am wave and on top of that usually one of the first 5-6 groups out.

  • badtrip

    @dangasin said...

    I am not understand that sentence. 12/22 were from the morning shift, 10/22 were from later shift? That is basically 50/50 right?

    Yes. They were playing mid-day though, that’s the key. I played this course a bunch of years ago the first day it was open after the tourny.
    The desert air doesn’t retain heat. when the sun starts getting low it cools off really fast.So the guys first and last to tee off are going to have some time in sub-optimal air conditions.

  • reallukegriff

    @badtrip said...

    Yes. They were playing mid-day though, that’s the key. I played this course a bunch of years ago the first day it was open after the tourny.
    The desert air doesn’t retain heat. when the sun starts getting low it cools off really fast.So the guys first and last to tee off are going to have some time in sub-optimal air conditions.

    Yet according to that article these tee times are where the FRL has come from?

  • futureoffantasy

    @Cooper08 said...

    What is being said is watch out for the pm wave this week as they could provide the day one leader which isn’t typical as usually the first round leader is from the am wave and on top of that usually one of the first 5-6 groups out.

    Yup. This is what I meant by that statement. It was more for gamers looking for First-Round Leader Bets. Typically that involves waiting for tee times to be released and giving the early starters a little boost, which isn’t the case here in the desert.

    While that is certainly possible here, it’s more split down the middle than most courses. Typically the ratio is closer to 65/35 in favor of AM starters.

    As for why golfers would score worse in the cold, I go back to watching Koepka interview after one of his rounds here. He had an early morning tee time where it was in the 50s before reaching 70s by noon. He talked about the yardages for his irons being 10 or 15% shorter on his front nine. Not a huge deal but when you snowball that effect that means shorter drives which leads to longer approaches and potentially having to play more conservative.

    AM still benefits from smoother greens, but everything else here typically favors PM starters.

  • Quadhole

    @reallukegriff said...

    So more started in the AM when it was colder…

    I think that is a YES, but usually the AM wave does better than the PM wave on avg. most courses. With equal chance at an AM wave after two days it works out. My thought is to try (somewhat) to find guys not starting early either day.
    It can be really cold early in the desert morning. Have to check the weather, think it can be 50 at 8am and 80 by 1pm. Someone here knows the answer

  • Quadhole

    @dangasin said...

    I am not understand that sentence. 12/22 were from the morning shift, 10/22 were from later shift? That is basically 50/50 right?

    Yes, but I think, not sure, but usually the morning wave does better. As in, other courses would be 18 of 22 leaders would be from the morning wave. The weather shows, 54 degrees AM 81 PM… So the usual AM advantage is gone for the first 3 or 4 groups MAYBE… Freaking cold

  • Quadhole

    @futureoffantasy said...

    Yup. This is what I meant by that statement. It was more for gamers looking for First-Round Leader Bets. Typically that involves waiting for tee times to be released and giving the early starters a little boost, which isn’t the case here in the desert.

    While that is certainly possible here, it’s more split down the middle than most courses. Typically the ratio is closer to 65/35 in favor of AM starters.

    As for why golfers would score worse in the cold, I go back to watching Koepka interview after one of his rounds here. He had an early morning tee time where it was in the 50s before reaching 70s by noon. He talked about the yardages for his irons being 10 or 15% shorter on his front nine. Not a huge deal but when you snowball that effect that means shorter drives which leads to longer approaches and potentially having to play more conservative.

    AM still benefits from smoother greens, but everything else here typically favors PM starters.

    thanks

  • badtrip

    I’m not taking the very early/late tee times into my selections, but if you do, the guys going off the back get the worst of it. The front side is desert and the back is water.

  • hautalak

    @lfn1992 said...

    I had some Kjeldsen, then I faded him completely. Is that a mistake?

    Didn’t realize he was in the player pool. Still not taking any of him, so not a mistake. Never catch him doing well.

  • lfn1992

    “To Poom, thanks for kicking my a**.“Poom Saksansin helped beat his idol henrikstenson in the EurAsiaCupGolf. This week Henrik gave him a signed shirt. 👏 pic.twitter.com/ynQgwu98e2— The European Tour (@EuropeanTour) January 31, 2018

    I love this.

  • mgravity

    you guys type too fast I can’t keep up?

  • Jamcclea

    Just got a push notification to join the 8$. DK sweating overlay..

  • lfn1992

    Looking for late WD info on the Maybank Championship and don’t see any

  • lfn1992

    Much wider ownership in the EURO this week

    Kiradech Aphibarnrat G 33.89%
    Shubhankar Sharma G 33.89%
    Dylan Frittelli G 32.00%
    Richie Ramsay G 29.06%
    Henrik Stenson G 21.15%
    Matt Wallace G 20.14%
    David Lipsky G 18.29%
    Joost Luiten G 17.70%
    Nino Bertasio G 16.57%
    Bernd Wiesberger G 16.48%
    Chris Paisley G 15.98%
    Dean Burmester G 15.73%
    Alexander Levy G 14.80%
    Fabrizio Zanotti G 14.34%
    Shaun Norris G 13.12%
    Hao-Tong Li G 11.86%
    Poom Saksansin G 11.86%
    Mike Lorenzo-Vera G 11.61%
    Andrew Johnston G 10.98%
    Lee Westwood G 10.56%
    Haydn Porteous G 10.13%
    Daisuke Kataoka G 10.13%
    David Horsey G 10.05%

    Thoughts:

    • No love for Bernd! 16.48% is shockingly low.
    • Lipsky I can sort-of understand, seeing as he played well here in the past (I have no shares), but Wallace… first-timer, real head-scratcher
    • Not sure Beef at 10.98% is a good idea, however I also said that about him last week
    • I went 100% Stenson and at 21.15% many ate the chalk, as did I
    • Paisley 15.98% Frittelli 32%, my fearless prediction is one or more MC
  • lfn1992

    My flyers:

    Berry Henson 0.59%
    Lee Slattery 0.76%
    Jazz Janewattananond 0.84%
    Prom “The Big Dolphin” Meesawat 1.14%
    Gaganjeet Bhullar 1.60%
    Yuta Ikeda 1.68%
    Chien-Yao Hung 1.68%

    All but one are pretty darned good Asian players, Jazzy J and Ikeda are top OWGR golfers. I LOVE that these guys are microscopically owned

  • JimKronlund

    @lfn1992 said...

    but Wallace… first-timer, real head-scratcher

    I have 2 teams and Wallace is on one. So we all know where that is headed.

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