PGA FORUM

When: February 1-4

Where: Scottsdale, Arizona

Course: TPC Scottsdale | A par 71 playing at 7261 yards

Last Year’s Winner: Hideki Matsuyama at -17

Last Year’s Cut: -1

Coverage: Golf Channel | CBS | PGA Tour Live

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Current Happy Meal Standings

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Whodat2, can we get the Happy Meal Standings link added to the top post each week?

Coop, those % of being close are not what I remember. So maybe i know nothing :)
but the way I see it is a whole bunch of a couple of % people 110 of 156. So If you narrow the evaluation to top 3 or 5 of all players and the top couple of a lower salary. This as in trying to identify the value that DK missed and the major touts consensus.

Top 3:

Mats: 26.5
Fowler: 21.5
Rahm/Webb: 21

7300 and under:

Molinari: 13
Grillo/Hadley: 10
Snedeker: 9

In EURO I have 16 golfers in my pool $7900 or below and an additional 4 golfers on my bench, whoa. Time to whittle this down somehow

Thank you, sir.

superstars, you playing finau again?

notorious says sg approach is the top stat this week. Jordan spieth all day

With respect to the Corollary Course info from @futureoffantasy Josh Culp, I’d like to understand why those courses came and what process is used ?

Josh, you around ???

I agree with a couple of the courses he listed in terms of look, feel and grass type(s) but then a couple couldn’t be more different (Firestone for example).

So I guess I’m asking:
Are correlations being run on individual player results and there is a positive relationship between those who have down well here and at those courses ? Or how do you come up with TPC Scottsdale being a corollary Course to Firestone and Sawgrass ?

I agree, was surprised to see Firestone, Torrey and I think it was Riviera on the list compared to Scottsdale. I do see those three being correlated to each other but like you I am missing why they are correlated to Scottsdale.

The numbers are true as I save the ownership percentages in a email. Like I said before as long as they are within 5% I don’t care because is there really a difference if a player is 20% or 25% owned or 5% vs 10%. I just want to know the ballpark number so I can make sure I go 50-100% over there projected ownership in my player pool ownership.

I am thinking of trying out 3 player contests this week. Any opinions of them vs h2h or 5 player?

anybody like uihlein? down to $6800

I think of corollary courses as ones that look/feel similar, play in a similar way and/or maybe have the same course architect and maybe same type of ecological zone, weather patterns, etc…

TPC Scottsdale to me is high desert so I immediately thought of the courses in Palm Springs and Vegas and even the Tucson course that hosted the Match Play for a few years.

There are a couple funky risk/reward holes here so that made me think of a handful of other courses including the Shell Houston Open.

Bermuda fairways and average size Bermuda greens (very good surfaces for putting compared to some of the Bermuda greens courses in Florida) so this also aligns with a few of the places I listed above.

I’m guess Josh’s Course list is based on results of players correlating positively at those courses.

To speak to your comments Coop, yah Torrey South is much tougher than Scottsdale and Riviera has that crazy kikuyu grass so chipping and pitching is a nightmare as are short 3’ putts (I think Riviera is #1 or 2 annually for most missed short putts) so very different from Scottsdale as well.

Love him. I will have him in my blog.

@BenColeyGolf mentioned something about the Stadium Course from the CareerBuilder Challenge as a good comparison. Not sure if he’s accurate or not, but pretty sure he knows more than me.

He’s on my radar too – I’m guessing I won’t be too overweight on him but I’ll end up a little over field ownership.

I think he will be around 5% so I am looking at going 10-15% on him. I think Harkins, Streelman and Hadley will be the chalk under 7k followed by McGirt. Also under 7k I am liking a little Na, Si Woo and a couple shares of Blaum.

I agree – I think there a similarities for sure. The original pre-reno design of the Stadium Course was more penal that what we saw a couple weeks ago so the playability and scoring of the 2 courses is probably closer the past couple of years since TPC Scottsdale was toughened up a bit in 2014.

….to Na or not to Na

That is one of the 5-6 questions I still need to answer before locking in lineups; Kevin Na would definitely rank in the Top 3 players to fuck me over the past 2 years. Don’t worry Harris English and Patrick Rodgers, I haven’t forgotten about you guys !

Nah to the Na!

He’ll do decent one of these days, but I don’t mind missing that train in my one lineup. If running multi, imagine you’d have him at least once.

EDIT: A cut-maker at this event for sure!!!!

EDIT-EDIT: There are just other options I’d prefer to root for

I’m also on Na just based on course history….he’s burned me too many times just make the cut

with respects to the numbers, I think its a difference. 5% in 20-25 not so much. 5% from 5-10 yes.

GPP yes, cash no.

spot on and I agree. Just above at 7k I think Grayson will have some ownership behind him too.

Who are we thinking is the cash game chalk? I think it will be Steele, Keegan (Keegan cash chalk sounds pretty gross), finau?, both hideki and Spieth should be about equal I think (25%??)…. Any others expected?