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  • Dleepi01

    I saw some people discussing this on Twitter last week, and it made me think. Historically it would be hard to argue against Mcjester but there a lot of great GPP players in NBA. Who would get your vote?

  • mjordantmac

    • 2016 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    A few guys that kill gpp’s on a daily basis not getting enough love.

    pianoclub
    bcalicore
    mjclub
    ganondorf
    priestapp
    ashyl4rry
    scout326
    bella4edw

  • jr1886

    • 2017 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    @mjordantmac said...

    A few guys that kill gpp’s on a daily basis not getting enough love.

    pianoclub
    bcalicore
    mjclub
    ganondorf
    priestapp
    ashyl4rry
    scout326
    bella4edw

    I agree with your list. Cheddabisque is one of the best, too.

  • meerkatmreow

    @Ryazan said...

    bingo. NBA not my thing….too much losing after some big wins in NBA (and this is coming from someone who had the max amount of entries into the Playboy Mansion tourney just 3 weeks ago), so waiting it out till MLB season starts – I am the McJester of MLB.

    NBA has almost no edge, and i’ve learned it the hard way.

    Did you stop believing in yourself?

  • IronMonkey415

    I still believe in him

  • jr1886

    • 2017 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    Ryazan could be brash at times, but overall he was/is beneficial to the industry. He inspired me and perhaps others that we could win even against the best players.

  • JeffElJefe

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    @Ryazan said...

    NBA has almost no edge, and i’ve learned it the hard way.

    That’s an easy cop-out. I’d have to disagree with you there…

  • champagneravens

    For some reaso. i always tend to see chess_is_ok up there everytime and I hate it. Lol Its like I see him upthere everyday atleast hitting 500 on one of his lineups minimum and it sets me off. Hahaha all love though.

  • emitnulB

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    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • ckamins87

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    @jr1886 said...

    On Fanduel, MjClub seems to win the most in tournaments I played in. I was thrilled to finally beat him on Monday.

    mjclub/pianoclub is definitely a goat. But he enters like 7-8 in the baller every night so its no surprise to see him up there so often. However, its a testament to how good he is that he can continue to afford to do that lol.

  • badlands92

    I’d love to see data (I doubt it exists) with a simple #LUs entered vs. LUs won. Forget total winning $ since that’s arbitrary. I think that data would be fascinating.

    I still maintain that bankroll and luck trump “skill”.

  • meerkatmreow

    @badlands92 said...

    I’d love to see data (I doubt it exists) with a simple #LUs entered vs. LUs won. Forget total winning $ since that’s arbitrary. I think that data would be fascinating.

    I still maintain that bankroll and luck trump “skill”.

    I’ve seen some write ups looking at this that indicate in a given tourney you’re more likely to lose money with mass multi entry. It’d be interesting to see something long-term though. Then again, I think there’s a lot of confirmation bias in dfs where people are convinced of their opinion based on cherry picked anecdotes, so I’m unsure analysis would sway anyone either way

  • peachfuzz

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    @badlands92 said...

    I’d love to see data (I doubt it exists) with a simple #LUs entered vs. LUs won. Forget total winning $ since that’s arbitrary. I think that data would be fascinating.

    I still maintain that bankroll and luck trump “skill”.

    Bankroll is a huge part of it, but luck is a metaphysical factor that cannot be quanitified, and doesn’t even exist outside of philosophy.

    However, having a bankroll that can support lags in so called “luck,” i.e. variance, is definitely a big part of being a long term winning player.

  • Troll4MVP

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    @badlands92 said...

    I’d love to see data (I doubt it exists) with a simple #LUs entered vs. LUs won. Forget total winning $ since that’s arbitrary. I think that data would be fascinating.

    I still maintain that bankroll and luck trump “skill”.

    Sounds like u lost some money bro

  • badlands92

    @Troll4MVP said...

    Sounds like u lost some money bro

    97% of posters on here have lost some money, bro.

    Was there a part of my post you wanted to disagree with?

  • badlands92

    @peachfuzz said...

    Bankroll is a huge part of it, but luck is a metaphysical factor that cannot be quanitified, and doesn’t even exist outside of philosophy.

    However, having a bankroll that can support lags in so called “luck,” i.e. variance, is definitely a big part of being a long term winning player.

    What I mean by luck…see my Klay vs.CJ example from the 2/23 thread. Players with the same price, same posioon, same potential and good last & recent performance.

    Bad luck was picking CJ. Good luck was rolling Klay. It was quite literally a toss up.

  • badlands92

    @meerkatmreow said...

    I’ve seen some write ups looking at this that indicate in a given tourney you’re more likely to lose money with mass multi entry. It’d be interesting to see something long-term though. Then again, I think there’s a lot of confirmation bias in dfs where people are convinced of their opinion based on cherry picked anecdotes, so I’m unsure analysis would sway anyone either way

    I think it’s very plausible that someone entering 100 LUs in a contest will lose money. With so many combos, you’re voluntarily throwing away 60%+ of your entries in the hopes of landing one LU in the top 10.

    However, I think entering 5-10 LUs with a similar core really helps your chances vs. getting extremely lucky with just one.

  • peachfuzz

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    @badlands92 said...

    What I mean by luck…see my Klay vs.CJ example from the 2/23 thread. Players with the same price, same posioon, same potential and good last & recent performance.

    Bad luck was picking CJ. Good luck was rolling Klay. It was quite literally a toss up.

    I’m well aware of what you mean by luck, but at that point BR is still more important because it would allow you to create identical lineups with those two players swapped around to mitigate off nights by one of them.

    Honestly, the “luck” factor would be more attributed to both of them having crappy nights in a good spot.

  • lwel21

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    One guy who I think should be mentioned that I havent seen is theclone

  • Njsum1

    @peachfuzz said...

    I’m well aware of what you mean by luck, but at that point BR is still more important because it would allow you to create identical lineups with those two players swapped around to mitigate off nights by one of them.

    Honestly, the “luck” factor would be more attributed to both of them having crappy nights in a good spot.

    This is very true, but luck still plays a small part….I only play small stakes gpp ( quarter arcade). However I played exactly this strategy last night and both lineups min cashed. The reason ….luck. my lineup with cj had another player go bonkers, and my lineup with klay had another player underperform. Both lineups hit around 300 on dk. Yet if I was lucky my klay lineup would been paired with the over performing player and I would have had a top finish. Yet over time that luck should be smoothed away as there will be nights when that scenario will go my way….hopefully

  • Ryazan

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    @jr1886 said...

    I can’t believe I am hearing this from you, Ryazan. You were my inspiration when I used to fall short, and that’s why I persevere in this thing. On Monday, I finally breakout and won the SuperBaller. I was surprised you were not in there.

    I am happy that I inspired you and others to be great. I however had a harsh realization that I owe taxes on some huge winnings from last year, those need to be paid, and I can’t play NBA other than the $1/$5 lottery crowd, because I have lost too much lately. I think I tried to apply the wrong strategies to NBA that were working earlier in the year (Nov/Dec) that no longer work. But it’s too late now, the damage has been done, so I am just waiting it out till MLB…..i WAS a great player, but NBA ruined me pretty good. Now I await MLB to resume my dominance.

  • mjordantmac

    • 2016 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Tons of terrible info in these forums that get proved wrong every day by great players. Yes, there is still an edge in NBA and there always will be. Don’t complain about entries or bankroll, it’s all achievable and everyone is at an even playing field.

  • badlands92

    True. The guy with $3 in his account playing a prayer of a LU has the same chance to win $ as Saahilasud.

  • mjordantmac

    • 2016 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    The $3 guy obviously isn’t good at DFS or doesn’t take it seriously enough to beat Saahil. Excuses are for mediocre individuals and I’m sure you’re not mediocre.

  • dude_abides7

    @mjordantmac said...

    The $3 guy obviously isn’t good at DFS or doesn’t take it seriously enough to beat Saahil. Excuses are for mediocre individuals and I’m sure you’re not mediocre.

    Or for those that play within the “rules” stated by the sites TOS and others that circumvent them and are allowed to because the sites look the other way in favor of a bounty of rake.

    I am all for “edges”, as long as they are equally attainable by those that play and want to invest the time to employ them.

  • mjordantmac

    • 2016 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Or for those that play within the “rules” stated by the sites TOS and others that circumvent them and are allowed to because the sites look the other way in favor of a bounty of rake.

    I am all for “edges”, as long as they are equally attainable by those that play and want to invest the time to employ them.

    It has been a while since that happened. Don’t understand how people are still talking about it.

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