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  • rannas23

    Just wondering if the price will ever go down on these big multi entry contests (150 max entry) or will they keep increasing the price. I looked at baseballs DK 15 game slate and saw the $44 one not the $33…150 max entry. Are they doing away with the $33 and $27 big multi entry contests. I can still enter $8 ones but it seems if I want to ever max enter beyond that I’ll have to significantly increase my bankroll. I get why people wanted the 20 entry limit and there are plenty of those now for the $4 and $3…..but can’t they create the big max entries for price ranges around $4 and $3 or even $5. Seems like for every 20 entry or single entry contests, they could have a max entry contests for the same price entry for some that want to dabble in big multi entry max contests.

  • BigRay

    @Olhausen said...

    t will if you stop playing in them. I personally won’t enter in anything more then 1$ now that they have increased the entry fees from 3$ to 4$ and higher.

    Yep. I used to play the $3 daily and multi slates…play $1 a day now on the best slate I see. I do play many different sports and I do like the selection on DK. I do wish College FB and BB were back

  • mabrla

    @Olhausen said...

    I went from playing 100$ plus a night 2 years ago to maybe 15$ max a night and I still have plenty of fun researching and playing every single day. The highest tournament I enter now is the solo shot.

    I personally find it less fun the more entries I’m going against with a single LU. I can see the fun with 15 lineups in the $1 because you’re either going to hit or not regardless.

    My sweetspot is anywhere from 100-3000 total teams, but I don’t want to pay $88 dollars to do so lol.

  • sethfein

    @makeitra1n said...

    And one of those names,jjwd,commented on this post.listen these people have some sort of skill.most of it is in the gargantuan amount of lineups they have compared to the field,but there is skill.

    the thing is they are able to reach their true roi faster than everyone else because they are hitting a large sample size pretty fast.it takes 10 days for them to hit 1500 lineups individually,something that I’m sure takes most everyone the whole season.

    If keeping the large prize pools means I see the same names so be it.I’d rather that than 3 or 10 or 20 entry maxes on everything.and honestly if I’m not winning idgaf who is lol.

    My beef is with the sites increasing the cost of these gpps,especially the small buy in ones,and making the 1 dollar gpps 3 entry max in both the short slates and full ones.

    I know there is skill and I know that some guys spend 40 hours a week on research. I also know others just have a model they spent time and $$ building that creates 150 lineups for them with every MLB stack covered that is within their parameters. I also know that if you want to win a $50k prize, you have to beat these guys.

    HOWEVER, what I am trying to say is why have they not offered games for people who work full-time and just want to play DFS casually? Maybe spending an hour or 2 looking at stats and reading RG content and just want to compete and have a shot. Why isn’t there a $1 entry, 50 lineup max (so $50) cost, with the standard 10% rake that doesn’t allow duplicate entries if used in other tournies that night. It’s just simply catering to people who don’t want to face an algo lineup or someone playing with $100k that night and putting his same lineups into every game without a thought.

    Would this get pros to leave? Hell no because they still want to get their lineups in every game possible, DK or FD, to maximize ROI. To those who choose to play this new game over the old GPP large prize pool….they are sacrificing a larger pay day if they hit and can play in both tournies.

    The reality is that FD/DK don’t give a shit about 90% of the people…they care about the money coming in which is from the top 10%. Any business that operates in this manner is destined for failure over long haul as the negative PR gains traction (as happening now).

    So it would be nice if everyone can just be more honest and face reality of what this industry really is instead of pretending there isn’t an issue.

  • tonedefrob

    @sethfein said...

    HOWEVER, what I am trying to say is why have they not offered games for people who work full-time and just want to play DFS casually?

    This is pretty much the definition of Arcade Mode on DK.

  • jjwd

    @makeitra1n said...

    And one of those names,jjwd,commented on this post.listen these people have some sort of skill.most of it is in the gargantuan amount of lineups they have compared to the field,but there is skill.

    I’m definitely not one of the top 100, but multi entry has worked for me. Obviously this is complicated, especially since we are guessing about sites’ strategy. I think a total entry limit is warranted (used to be that way on FD), but this is selfish on my part because I don’t play high stakes. Guys who are max entering two expensive tournaments per night don’t need to be maxing out the 1-4 dollar tournaments IMO. Ideally we’d have a free market, but the sites are simultaneously worried about player retention and revenue generation. A total entry limit seems better than 20 max on low stakes. But we have incomplete information, and I’m biased.

  • jjwd

    And the big FD 3 dollar fills more than 1.5 hrs early today! Regular Joes getting home from work don’t even get a chance to LOOK at a big cheap tournament. Dumb

  • makeitra1n

    @jjwd said...

    And the big FD 3 dollar fills more than 1.5 hrs early today! Regular Joes getting home from work don’t even get a chance to LOOK at a big cheap tournament. Dumb

    I remember last year when the sac fly,which was 17k entries every day and 150 max,filled literally everyday by 2pm

  • madmanjayWV

    @Roma315 said...

    The buy ins keep increasing and the tournaments have become super top heavy.
    Last night FD $150k prize pool paid 36% to the top 3 spots.

    THink about that for a few minutes ^^

  • madmanjayWV

    @makeitra1n said...

    I remember last year when the sac fly,which was 17k entries every day and 150 max,filled literally everyday by 2pm

    there is absolutely no rhyme nor reason to what FD is doing..it’s shameful, but they DGAF, obviously…

    I’ve tried to say my 2 cents, but it’s not worth it — it’s all about the SHARKS always has been and always will continue to be.

  • anilprao88

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    @madmanjayWV said...

    there is absolutely no rhyme nor reason to what FD is doing..it’s shameful, but they DGAF, obviously…

    I’ve tried to say my 2 cents, but it’s not worth it — it’s all about the SHARKS always has been and always will continue to be.

    Not saying I’m a shark, but I hate what FD has done with how top-heavy their payouts are. It is the sole reason I’ve played more than 2x as much in GPPs on DK this baseball season. That move was done to attract fish, not sharks IMO.

  • madmanjayWV

    @anilprao88 said...

    Not saying I’m a shark, but I hate what FD has done with how top-heavy their payouts are. It is the sole reason I’ve played more than 2x as much in GPPs on DK this baseball season. That move was done to attract fish, not sharks IMO.

    SHARP — i regret — i should’ve said..I do

    APOLOGIZE..4-give me..

    sted of ~~ FISH BAIT ~~ #BeWAREofSHARPS (understand where you are coming from)

    But more FISH = EASIER for the 1% upper ELITE (SHARKS?) to FEAST ON — you have to remember the last few days I truly feel FD/DK felt they were gonna be joined @ the hip in UNISON —- #NOTsoFASTmyFRIEND

  • luckyturk

    the only true way dfs is going to get rid of sharks is to make a average daily betting amount and thus only aloud to enter say 40%of said average as his minimum bet line so that means he can only play 40 k and higher therefore cant play in anything below that thus shark against shark period

    ,, so say a 100 dollars a day can only play say at 40% 40 dollars minimum bet and so on just adjust accordingly ya 40% is high so maybe lower to 20% avg betting then he can get 5 line ups at 20 bucks pss u can still try to win tickets or win over your avg in tickets or bigger tourneys but in the sharks not allowed under there avg bets what say u all minnows

    the only u get rid of the sharks in the minnow gamesw is to set an average bet like say a shark averaGE BET IS 100K A DAY THEN HE SHOULD BE ALOUD TO BED ONLY 40

  • eppy99

    Since the beginning of this year I was playing the $3 Birdie PGA contest and max entering 150 lineups. I’ll be honest I wasn’t fairing too well. There is a ton of skill involved and it’s taken a lot of studying the pro’s and tinkering with my process to even get close to breaking even. Once in awhile I would have a lineup or two that would allow me to make a little coin, but usually I’m losing money in the gpp’s.

    What I enjoy about max entering or playing a lot of lineups is creating the portfolio of ownerships. With limiting enteries to 20, much of my enjoyment has been taken away. I didn’t mind gambling the $450 each week to take my shots. But now I’m being asked to pay $8 per lineup just to enter the same amount with smaller payouts and I’m just not going to do it. The players with huge bankrolls can do it, but the smaller players can’t afford this gamble. Seems totally unfair.

    If there was a petition I would sign it today. I’ve written DK a number of times and get the same BS answer which is nothing. I noticed Fanduel at least has a $4 150 max entry contest. Maybe the answer is that I need to switch sites.

    What should we expect come football season?

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