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  • dayman

    So I originally put in a withdrawal request on the 28th of January. I then got an email from them on February 2nd that I needed to submit a W9 and that my withdrawal wouldn’t be processed until I did. I emailed them the W9 on the 5th (and received a 1099 in the mail from them two days ago).

    My withdrawal still hasn’t gone through. I emailed them on the 12th, and contacted them through the website yesterday, both with no response… Anyone else having issues with them?

    3/10/16 UPDATE: DraftKings strikes a deal to cover all unpaid FantasyHub balances and liabilities. Read more from David Purdum on ESPN!

    DraftKings Co-Founder Matt Kalish’s Statement: “This is not an acquisition deal or an asset purchase deal. This is a very simple deal, where we’re assigning two liabilities from [FantasyHub] over to DraftKings in an effort to do the right thing for their player base, which has a nearly 80 percent overlap with our own. We never want to see our player base go through an experience that’s negative like this. What happened here was reprehensible. It is a breach of trust for these players and we share a lot of these players with them. We just didn’t think it was the right thing to do to sit on the sideline and let that happen. We had the ability to step up and do something.”

  • RangerC

    @OccamsRazorback said...

    You don’t owe anything to this industry that created an environment where something like this can happen.

    Exactly… I’m owed enough that if I don’t get paid I will scorch the earth and I know I’m not the only one (I already have a LOT of documentation). Look at the joke that was the FSTA’s statement – they don’t care at all about the fact that their member site stole from players, their only focus is trying to pass FD/DK friendly legislation.

  • stoptheinsanity

    If you have a large amount of money that was stolen from you I urge you to file a lawsuit. There is not a judge in the world that would rule in favor of these scumbags. Just make sure you also sue them for the amount of money you could have made off your bankroll they are withholding. Also sue for the money you earned for charity to be donated to the charity you chose. It’s kind of a shame there is no law that puts these thieves in prison. Because that is what they are. Thieves.

  • tjabchs6

    @Cal said...

    I’m definitely not ignoring anything wosleep. I have very limited information and I’m reporting what I can, which some appreciate. I understand if you and some others don’t appreciate it.

    I’m not discouraging anyone here about speaking out on this, being angry, etc. What’s happening is awful. I am saying to not write off your funds yet, though. Check out this FantasyUp thread to see how a situation with many similarities to this one played out just recently.

    I would also agree that player funds aren’t completely gone for good. Everyone with the FantasyUp situation thought they were screwed and that the reports of 3rd party negotiations were total BS, but it suddenly ended up working out. Who knows if the negotiations for FH are more or less complex – and if they’re more complex, that’s probably the reason it’s taking longer. But I will admit that we really have no idea if there are even any 3rd party negotiations to begin with. They could have just taken the money and ran off – we really have no idea.

    Honestly, if I had to put money on it, I’d say the final outcome of this situation will result in players not getting their money back. But I still think there’s a decent chance.

  • bkamann

    I am very skeptical about some of these smaller sites. Obviously, FD and DK do not have this issue (that I have ran into) and the only “small site” I still play on is FantasyDraft and I have had no issues with the multiple withdrawals that I have completed on their site. Even my cashouts into the thousands have been processed within a day.

  • thehammer74

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153063367541705&set=ecnf.561306704&type=3&theater

    Perhaps give him a call and ask him where your money is?

    Anyone who tells you that you don’t have the right to call someone who stole your money is full of caca. Humans and animals are suffering without the money that you guys donated to their charities that got stolen. Just keep it clean.

    You’re welcome, guys :)

  • stoptheinsanity

    @bkamann said...

    I am very skeptical about some of these smaller sites. Obviously, FD and DK do not have this issue (that I have ran into) and the only “small site” I still play on is FantasyDraft and I have had no issues with the multiple withdrawals that I have completed on their site. Even my cashouts into the thousands have been processed within a day.

    I made a withdrawal from FantasyDraft today. Requested it this morning. And it was already in my Paypal account by the time I got home.

  • sjm26b

    @thehammer74 said...

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153063367541705&set=ecnf.561306704&type=3&theater

    Perhaps give him a call and ask him where your money is?

    Anyone who tells you that you don’t have the right to call someone who stole your money is full of caca. Humans and animals are suffering without the money that you guys donated to their charities that got stolen. Just keep it clean.

    You’re welcome, guys :)

    you do realize that that is the number listed for fantasyhub dont you?

    doubt you will get very fall by calling it

  • tvsfrink

    @stoptheinsanity said...

    There is not a judge in the world that would rule in favor of these scumbags.

    While you very well could win your lawsuit, unfortunately judges are supposed to rule on the law rather than emotion, and reality often fails to play nice with emotion. I’m not saying people shouldn’t sue, but you can’t just assume it’s a guaranteed strategy.

  • wolfjb1

    I am in the process of suing them here in Florida.

  • FunkyColdModella

    @thehammer74 said...

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153063367541705&set=ecnf.561306704&type=3&theater

    Perhaps give him a call and ask him where your money is?

    Anyone who tells you that you don’t have the right to call someone who stole your money is full of caca. Humans and animals are suffering without the money that you guys donated to their charities that got stolen. Just keep it clean.

    You’re welcome, guys :)

    Someone else posted his Facebook page earlier in the thread.

    That being said, maybe start friend requesting his friends then ask them for his phone number?

  • cAUmberlandtiger8

    This is strictly my opinion and not intended as legal advice. There are proper ways to go about this situation. Email the AG of Texas and Kentucky. Email your charities. File disputes with Paypal and Credit Card. Seek the advice of an attorney and explore filing suit. Harassment and intimidation of his friends or FH members is the wrong way to go about this and you can potentially open yourself up to criminal charges.

  • brutx15

    Yea, I don’t understandwhy people continue to post that filing a dispute through paypal or your credit card is the route to go. I for one, have only deposited $20 on the site, as I started on it when it first began running, and they offered so many free rolls and what not, that I was able to build up a decent sized bankroll form the get-go.

    What good is filing a dispute for a $20 deposit going to do for me, when I have $400 just sitting in there, that I clearly can’t argue for in any dispute? So yes, I am also tired of those saying that there is “practical steps” to get your money back. No there isn’t, unless the only money you want back is your deposit(s).

  • kdriskell311

    @brutx15 said...

    Yea, I don’t understandwhy people continue to post that filing a dispute through paypal or your credit card is the route to go. I for one, have only deposited $20 on the site, as I started on it when it first began running, and they offered so many free rolls and what not, that I was able to build up a decent sized bankroll form the get-go.

    What good is filing a dispute for a $20 deposit going to do for me, when I have $400 just sitting in there, that I clearly can’t argue for in any dispute? So yes, I am also tired of those saying that there is “practical steps” to get your money back. No there isn’t, unless the only money you want back is your deposit(s).

    A lot of people that played on FH deposited more than just $20. At the beginning of the NBA season they were offering free entries to a $20 50/50 (Free entry for every $100 deposit and for every 4 entries.)

    The people who made multiple deposits in order to receive these entries may be able to recoup those deposits. That’s why it is important. Contacting CC/Paypal can be very beneficial to a lot of people.

    Getting your $20 back may not benefit you that much, but there are plenty of people with a lot more “invested” money on the line. Sucks that no one can access their winnings, but at least there are options for people to receive some money.

    Hell, if I were you, I’d dispute the $20 and when you get it back, throw a couple of $5-10 GPP lineups up on FD/DK…Maybe karma will work out for you :)

  • brutx15

    @kdriskell311 said...

    Getting your $20 back may not benefit you that much, but there are plenty of people with a lot more “invested” money on the line

    I understand that. But money isn’t the only thing being “invested” here. The amount of time spent for those winnings, researching, following lineups, referring friends, and what not is also an investment that should be noted. Then the charity part is just a whole different aspect. I’m still not certain if my %s went to charity, and if not I think I had around $200 in charity winnings. That is just more money they flat out stole on top of the winnings sitting in my account.

  • thehammer74

    @sjm26b said...

    you do realize that that is the number listed for fantasyhub dont you?

    doubt you will get very fall by calling it

    A person who sounded young picked up the phone when I called today. When I started asking where the charity money was, I got hung up on. I would assume it was Plappert as that is the personal phone number he provided to his friends in the words next to his FB picture in the previous link. (Not so personal when you post it on FB for the whole world to see)

  • Aalbanese102089

    https://etrigg.com/event/nfl-sunday-funday/1795823/

    Clearly, this is before the site went down. And the # listed for FH is his personal cell. I don’t think that’s something I would do. You’d think they’d have a separate line for the company..

    Perhaps someone smarter than I knows what this is?

    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1601318/000160131815000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

  • thehammer74

    @Aalbanese102089 said...

    https://etrigg.com/event/nfl-sunday-funday/1795823/

    Clearly, this is before the site went down. And the # listed for FH is his personal cell. I don’t think that’s something I would do. You’d think they’d have a separate line for the company..

    Perhaps someone smarter than I knows what this is?

    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1601318/000160131815000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

    Section 16 in your link looks like out of the $170,000 they raised from selling their securities, $72,000 went right into Plappert’s pocket. If I’m understanding this correctly, Plappert immediately pocketed almost 43% of the money he raised to fund the business?

    I’m not a securities expert, so maybe someone else would know better than myself.

  • kdriskell311

    @thehammer74 said...

    Section 16 in your link looks like out of the $170,000 they raised from selling their securities, $72,000 went right into Plappert’s pocket. If I’m understanding this correctly, Plappert immediately pocketed almost 43% of the money he raised to fund the business?

    I’m not a securities expert, so maybe someone else would know better than myself.

    I think the $72k was divided amongst Plappert, Pierce, and Busa.

  • tvsfrink

    @kdriskell311 said...

    A lot of people that played on FH deposited more than just $20. At the beginning of the NBA season they were offering free entries to a $20 50/50 (Free entry for every $100 deposit and for every 4 entries.)

    The people who made multiple deposits in order to receive these entries may be able to recoup those deposits. That’s why it is important. Contacting CC/Paypal can be very beneficial to a lot of people.

    Getting your $20 back may not benefit you that much, but there are plenty of people with a lot more “invested” money on the line. Sucks that no one can access their winnings, but at least there are options for people to receive some money.

    No no no, that’s not how this thread works. Anything said in this thread immediately applies to every person reading the thread, and every person should get angry at everything said about every person.

  • madmanjayWV

    @britdevine said...

    Any new sources, or is this all a sham, just fired off another email/phone call to the AG’s in TX and KY, asking them to look into fraud and possible charity scams from these crooks.

    BEST POST EVER ^ any new updates?

  • madmanjayWV

    @britdevine said...

    Just emailed all 3, thanks

    shall add……..

    https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12794324_1311770582173834_4897807961630034957_n.jpg?oh=7b442c7a8116e84649608eddd8413c4a&oe=57965B93

  • ComicFx

    Week ago today that the leaked news was, “waiting on a signature”. Do you guys need me to overnight a box of pens? Anywhere in the US I can get it delivered, hell, give me an address by noon I’ll get a box of pens there TODAY. There are ways Dude, you don’t want to know.

  • FunkyColdModella

    @tvsfrink said...

    No no no, that’s not how this thread works. Anything said in this thread immediately applies to every person reading the thread, and every person should get angry at everything said about every person.

    Jesus H.

    You and Koolaid Man climb down off the cross. We can sell the wood to recoup player funds.

  • dallasmavsallday

    This is exactly why you don’t put money on these rinky dink ass sites to begin with.

  • kdriskell311

    @dallasmavsallday said...

    This is exactly why you don’t put money on these rinky dink ass sites to begin with.

    LOL, this coming from the guy who on Feb 22 said…

    “I have put money on a bunch of smaller sites recently. I can’t remember what I had on fantasyhub and I can’t get into my account. what do I do?”

    Even if I were on a risky dink ass site, I’d be aware of how much money I had on it.

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