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  • mambaland

    If it was the nfc championship and the bears had home field would they really play outside? i know minus 5 is cold but minus 55 could kill ya…interesting to think about it

  • mambaland

    i am guessing move indoors if it was the scenario

  • bigez952

    They played the Minnesota / Seattle playoff game outdoors in Minnesota when it was -25 wind chill a few years ago so they would not move it indoors and would play it as scheduled. They don’t just have an indoor stadium in Chicago to move the game to unless they took away their home game and moved it to another area of the country which would never happen in an NFC championship game. The Ice Bowl reached -50 wind chill and everyone survived that game. I live in Minnesota and would never have interest in watching a game in the cold like that but they wouldn’t cancel or move it.

    The more interesting thing to thing to think about is imagine if this cold spell happened last year when Minnesota hosted the Super Bowl. So many of those events were outdoors and it would have been a disaster with all the outsiders not used to cold coming into that.

    On a side note I hate the “wind chill” calculation probably since I don’t understand it. Like today in MN was cold around -20 but at least where I was there was little to no wind yet -50 to -60 wind chills were being reported for my area. They must go by the highest gust of the entire day for that calculation since most of the Day was little to no wind.

  • mtdurham

    @bigez952 said...

    The Ice Bowl reached -50 wind chill

    The ice bowl was in 1967…

    they would definitely CONSIDER moving the game… if they could find a better alternative…. in all likelihood they would play it…

    but during the ice bowl there werent even telephones to call the league office on to tell them it was cold outside. They tried sending a carrier pigeon to the commissioner Roger Goodell but he wasnt born\ yet to receive the message…

  • mtdurham

    @bigez952 said...

    On a side note I hate the “wind chill” calculation probably since I don’t understand it. Like today in MN was cold around -20 but at least where I was there was little to no wind yet -50 to -60 wind chills were being reported for my area. They must go by the highest gust of the entire day for that calculation since most of the Day was little to no wind.

    actually there is no standard agreed upon calculation for wind chill… there are a ton of different formulas out there to calculate wind chill that various outlets report…

    it aint the most scientific measurement on the block thats for sure

  • BrowInLockerRoom

    They were reporting wind chillsnof like -30 in KC for the afc championship.

    Didn’t turn out to be nearly that cold but there was no mention of not playing them game.

  • bigez952

    @mtdurham said...

    The ice bowl was in 1967…

    they would definitely CONSIDER moving the game… if they could find a better alternative…. in all likelihood they would play it…

    but during the ice bowl there werent even telephones to call the league office on to tell them it was cold outside. They tried sending a carrier pigeon to the commissioner Roger Goodell but he wasnt born\ yet to receive the message…

    I live in Minnesota and if that was the case why was nothing ever mentioned about considering moving the Seattle / Minnesota playoff game which just happened back in 2016. Let’s forget about wind chill and go by actual air temperature. The day of Seattle / Minnesota lows were around -15 to -20 and the official game time temp in the afternoon was -6. Now if you look at yesterday the low in the twin cites was -28 and the afternoon high was -13.

    I just find it incredibly hard to believe there would be any consideration to move a game when just 2 years ago they didn’t even give it a thought for similar weather conditions.

  • wolfjb1

    What if the game was scheduled for an outdoor stadium on a day with weather conditions like this past Wednesday when the high in Minneapolis was 25 below zero? It’s an interesting thing to think about.

    It’s literally unsafe to be outside for more than a few minutes, right? They could hand out hand warmers to fans and get a bunch of those portable heaters for the sidelines, but people could actually die – or get frostbite, hypothermia, whatever – in the stands, so they would probably postpone it for a couple of days.

  • bigez952

    @wolfjb1 said...

    What if the game was scheduled for an outdoor stadium on a day with weather conditions like this past Wednesday when the high in Minneapolis was 25 below zero? It’s an interesting thing to think about.

    It’s literally unsafe to be outside for more than a few minutes, right? They could hand out hand warmers to fans and get a bunch of those portable heaters for the sidelines, but people could actually die – or get frostbite, hypothermia, whatever – in the stands, so they would probably postpone it for a couple of days.

    I live in Minnesota and the low was -25 on Wednesday and they don’t play NFL games at 2am when it was that cold. It was -13 in the afternoon which isn’t all that different than 2016 when they played outdoors at the U of M stadium when it was -6 with a -30 wind chill.

    The media blows up this polar vortex thing but if your smart and dress correctly you can be outside in the cold. I actually flew home from a Hawaii vacation overnight Tuesday and landed in MSP early Wednesday morning. So before I could even get in my driveway I had to remove 9 inches of snow that fell the Sunday before. So I was outside for a couple of hours Wednesday but was prepared for it. MN now has an indoor stadium so this will never be an issue here but I would be shocked for them to ever postpone a game due to cold if they played outdoors. If the NFL was worried about the cold and the safety of the players due to it they never should have played in 2016 as the gopher field at the U of M isn’t that well equipped to be played on in extreme cold temps so they were playing on concrete that day.

  • bigez952

    In my opinion it is far more dangerous to have sporting activities outdoors in extreme heat than extreme cold. You can protect yourself from the cold by wearing the proper protection but you can’t escape the heat.

  • wolfjb1

    @bigez952 said...

    I live in Minnesota and the low was -25 on Wednesday and they don’t play NFL games at 2am when it was that cold. It was -13 in the afternoon which isn’t all that different than 2016 when they played outdoors at the U of M stadium when it was -6 with a -30 wind chill.

    The media blows up this polar vortex thing but if your smart and dress correctly you can be outside in the cold. I actually flew home from a Hawaii vacation overnight Tuesday and landed in MSP early Wednesday morning. So before I could even get in my driveway I had to remove 9 inches of snow that fell the Sunday before. So I was outside for a couple of hours Wednesday but was prepared for it. MN now has an indoor stadium so this will never be an issue here but I would be shocked for them to ever postpone a game due to cold if they played outdoors. If the NFL was worried about the cold and the safety of the players due to it they never should have played in 2016 as the gopher field at the U of M isn’t that well equipped to be played on in extreme cold temps so they were playing on concrete that day.

    It’s all hypothetical, we know there’s an indoor stadium. Just talking about what would happen in an outdoor game if the weather in whatever city was what it was last Wednesday in the Twin Cities…

    I still think it would cancel. Because people are stupid. You were prepared. Not all 50,000 fans are gonna dress properly. Fans sitting in the stands for four hours, more than players (who’d have doctors and trainers to watch over them, giant heaters, etc.,) are more at risk in 25-below. It’s an interesting thing to think about.

  • bigez952

    You keep saying it was -25 on Wednesday but that was the overnight low and they don’t play games in the middle of the night. If you look at the facts only the air temp Wednesday afternoon was -13. In 2016 the gametike air temp was -6 and it fo as low as -8 and there was never consideration to cancel that game.

    So I guess if you really think those extra 5-7 degrees make the difference there is nothing left to argue and I don’t think those 5 degrees would mean that much when just 3 years ago they didn’t cancel or even talk about it being a possibility.

  • Kassdog

    I was at the cowboys bears game a few years back. Pretty sure at kick off it was -17 wind-chill.

  • mambaland

    @bigez952 said...

    They played the Minnesota / Seattle playoff game outdoors in Minnesota when it was -25 wind chill a few years ago so they would not move it indoors and would play it as scheduled. They don’t just have an indoor stadium in Chicago to move the game to unless they took away their home game and moved it to another area of the country which would never happen in an NFC championship game. The Ice Bowl reached -50 wind chill and everyone survived that game. I live in Minnesota and would never have interest in watching a game in the cold like that but they wouldn’t cancel or move it.

    The more interesting thing to thing to think about is imagine if this cold spell happened last year when Minnesota hosted the Super Bowl. So many of those events were outdoors and it would have been a disaster with all the outsiders not used to cold coming into that.

    On a side note I hate the “wind chill” calculation probably since I don’t understand it. Like today in MN was cold around -20 but at least where I was there was little to no wind yet -50 to -60 wind chills were being reported for my area. They must go by the highest gust of the entire day for that calculation since most of the Day was little to no wind.

    talking to some nfl guys in atlanta this week they said it would be moved indoors..too much liability for fans as nowdays people are sue happy and a huge difference in 25 degrees at those temps. and another issue was airports shut down…anyway we wont know this year…lets hope it happens in green bay..go pack

  • bigez952

    @mambaland said...

    talking to some nfl guys in atlanta this week they said it would be moved indoors..too much liability for fans as nowdays people are sue happy and a huge difference in 25 degrees at those temps. and another issue was airports shut down…anyway we wont know this year…lets hope it happens in green bay..go pack

    Would have moved indoors where? The closest indoor NFL stadium to Chicago is in Minnesota or Detroit so they would take away a home game from Chicago for an NFC championship.

    What airports shut down? I flew home to MSP on Wednesday morning without issue. I didn’t hear any of any airports shit down outside of some flights getting canceled that were scheduled to land late at night in the worst of the cold.

    The politicaly correct answer to the hypothetical question is to cancel the game but if they really felt that way they should have never played the 2016 MN game on a college without the proper heating systems to be played on in January so they let that game go on concrete in a -27 degree windchill which was comparable to what it was Wednesday around 3pm when windchills were reported in the -30’s.

    Can you imagine the backlash of Packer or Bears fans to lose a home playoff game and have to moved to a rivals stadium when people of the Midwest pride themselves of the home field advantage the cold gives them. So many in Minnesota were upset the Vikings decided to stay indoors to give up that advantage but it also allows the venue to be used for so many other things year round. It was also the only way they were getting the Super Bowl so I can see why they did it.

  • JSteele

    The NFL did have a plan for this, they moved the NFC championship game to New Orleans.

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