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  • dictator_teddy

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    I’ve been playing at Yahoo since they rolled out the DFS, and have noticed certain accounts always have identical lineups. I have tracked them pretty closely in H2H and 50/50 games, and just wanted others to be aware of this. I would not make these accusations unless I was very certain of it. I understand that sharing lineups is not against the rules, but wanted others to be aware of this. The following accounts have identical lineups 99% of the time. Sometimes, there will be one player that is different, but all three accounts almost always have the exact same 8 players. Not sure if this is already common knowledge, but just wanted others to be aware of this.

    birdwings / Daut44 / dihac

  • Putz

    @dictator_teddy said...

    birdwings / Daut44 / dihac

    Familiar names, familiar games.

  • Bando28

    Oh look all the H2H guys lol

  • DCoop328

    Maybe it was @BirdWyngs Lineups on Instagram?

    *Sarcasm Font

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Dont quote me on this, but I seem to remember that the Birdwings account on Yahoo isn’t actually Birdwings according to some.

  • dictator_teddy

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    @britdevine said...

    Dont quote me on this, but I seem to remember that the Birdwings account on Yahoo isn’t actually Birdwings according to some.

    That’s interesting. I just assumed it was the real Birdwings because Yahoo Birdwings plays highstakes and wins a lot more often than not.

  • DCoop328

    Will the real BirdWings please stand up?

  • MrFantasy

    Yahoo’s soft pricing makes for a lot of overlap in NBA. Daut and Birdwings are obviously very sharp players so it could be a coincidence but it’s more likely them sharing lineups. Especially if it’s three different guys all having the same lineup every night in H2H.

  • Tsw1999

    On StarsDraft (before I was booted off) and FantasyHub (before I was booted off), there were regularly 5-7 guys that always had the same lineup. The only one I sorta remember had a name like TCTCC. Of course, neither one did anything about it.

  • Gateman07

    • 2013 StarStreet NFL Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @britdevine said...

    Dont quote me on this, but I seem to remember that the Birdwings account on Yahoo isn’t actually Birdwings according to some.

    This is 100% correct… As many longtime members within the community know, Birdwings and I are lifelong friends and I can guarantee you that Birdwings does not play yahoo at all. The account is a troll pretending to be Birdwings. As most pros do, we make sure to sign up for any legitimate site and reserve our names, but because of yahoo’s bass-ackwards and archaic means of setting screennames (I still have to play yahoo under the name Luke rather than my DFS tag) this douche has setup a yahoo account to assume his identity.

    People can accuse Bird of whatever they choose to, but sharing lineups and shit on yahoo shouldnt be one of them.

  • Gateman07

    • 2013 StarStreet NFL Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @DCoop328 said...

    Will the real BirdWings please stand up?

    He’s on vacation with his family – but I’ll let him know about this and make sure he chimes in to explain the fact that posers have been targeting his name brand for years when he gets back

  • jimmyquinella

    • Blogger of the Month

    Thanks for the update Gateman.

  • eleven11

    @MrFantasy said...

    Yahoo’s soft pricing makes for a lot of overlap in NBA. Daut and Birdwings are obviously very sharp players so it could be a coincidence but it’s more likely them sharing lineups. Especially if it’s three different guys all having the same lineup every night in H2H.

    Not this.

  • madmanjayWV

    Can’t we all agree — just build better lineups?

  • Putz

    @Gateman07 said...

    As most pros do, we make sure to sign up for any legitimate site and reserve our names, but because of yahoo’s bass-ackwards and archaic means of setting screennames (I still have to play yahoo under the name Luke rather than my DFS tag) this douche has setup a yahoo account to assume his identity.

    People can accuse Bird of whatever they choose to, but sharing lineups and shit on yahoo shouldnt be one of them.

    I don’t know you, but on other sites it was a fact Birdwings and others were sharing lineups over many days/weeks over many sports and in the same small 50/50’s.

    Interesting reason you provided about not signing up on Yahoo simply because of a screen name. They can easily change it by contacting support or the rep here. Could there be other reasons?

  • awesemo

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    I can understand why people are upset about lineup sharing, because it feels like the people you’re playing might just know someone smart and not someone even know anything about the sport. That being said it’s tough for the sites to do anything about it because they would have no way of knowing the relationships between players.

    I think it’s only really distasteful when these people aggressively join head to head games, and it’s less of an issue in larger leagues.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    ^
    People having identical lineups multiple times in the same week would be enough for me to assume they were sharing/copying/purchasing lineups. That’s not much of an assumption…

    Now the things you would have to be careful of…
    I’d focus on single-entry (cash games)…While it could still be annoying in GPP, it;s not that different than a single-user train in terms of effecting the result.
    Limit enforcement to slates 4+ games (or whatever you want to put it at) where identical lineups should be the exception and not the norm.
    Have a clear number of occurrences to institute a warning…then from there levels of suspensions if it continues.

    If you did that, there’s about 0% chance anyone creating their own lineups would have an issue.
    Honestly, if the sites just said they were doing this, they could not even bother to follow through, and the threat of being monitored/suspended, would probably curb a significant portion of the people from doing it.

  • dictator_teddy

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    Yeah, the accounts mentioned are joining the same 10-team 50/50 contests. Makes the game not as fun (and makes me feel like a fish) when on a daily basis I am competing against the same 2-3 accounts in the $270, $530, and $1,050 games.

  • Putz

    @dictator_teddy said...

    Yeah, the accounts mentioned are joining the same 10-team 50/50 contests. Makes the game not as fun (and makes me feel like a fish) when on a daily basis I am competing against the same 2-3 accounts in the $270, $530, and $1,050 games.

    Rewind to two years ago…

    https://rotogrinders.com/threads/sharing-lineups-again-416019?page=5

  • dakimbell

    there is absolutely nothing the sites could do about it even if it wasn’t legal, and besides I don’t see the big deal even if they were doing it. but I am a gpp guy, so these h2h complaints I rarely understand.

  • Putz

    @dakimbell said...

    there is absolutely nothing the sites could do about it even if it wasn’t legal, and besides I don’t see the big deal even if they were doing it. but I am a gpp guy, so these h2h complaints I rarely understand.

    Couldn’t or wouldn’t? They wouldn’t and don’t do anything about it because they are generating tons of revenue for the sites.

  • Sleepyfloyd16

    It’s no secret that a lot of these pros share their information and research with each other. There was a person posting on the NBA board a few weeks back trying to recruit people to join his little club of pros, as long as they were able to prove they had some special skills or research methods that would benefit the group. I’m a relative newbie to the DFS game, so I don’t have the requisite credentials for entry, but I assume they share info and probably even lineups. I guess you can never have too big of an edge when you rely on DFS winnings as your primary source of income. It’s a little discouraging, but I don’t think the DFS industry has any intention of stopping it. Much respect to the pros that actually make their own lineups and don’t share or sell them to game the system.

  • DanielHaight

    • Yahoo Representative

    Hey guys, just want to step in here and say that we are currently investigating this situation, and I appreciate all the thoughtful comments.

  • dakimbell

    how could you prove it that they were?

  • Putz

    @dakimbell said...

    how could you prove it that they were?

    Simply by looking at their cash lineups over time.

  • Priptonite

    • Blogger of the Month

    Daut44 and dihac should change their screen names to kcannon and CSURAM88, then this would truly be a great troll

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