RSD FORUM

Comments

  • dictator_teddy

    • 173

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2017 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    I’ve been playing at Yahoo since they rolled out the DFS, and have noticed certain accounts always have identical lineups. I have tracked them pretty closely in H2H and 50/50 games, and just wanted others to be aware of this. I would not make these accusations unless I was very certain of it. I understand that sharing lineups is not against the rules, but wanted others to be aware of this. The following accounts have identical lineups 99% of the time. Sometimes, there will be one player that is different, but all three accounts almost always have the exact same 8 players. Not sure if this is already common knowledge, but just wanted others to be aware of this.

    birdwings / Daut44 / dihac

  • Agent47

    @Sleepyfloyd16 said...

    It’s no secret that a lot of these pros share their information and research with each other. There was a person posting on the NBA board a few weeks back trying to recruit people to join his little club of pros, as long as they were able to prove they had some special skills or research methods that would benefit the group. I’m a relative newbie to the DFS game, so I don’t have the requisite credentials for entry, but I assume they share info and probably even lineups. I guess you can never have too big of an edge when you rely on DFS winnings as your primary source of income. It’s a little discouraging, but I don’t think the DFS industry has any intention of stopping it. Much respect to the pros that actually make their own lineups and don’t share or sell them to game the system.

    Yeah, I remember seeing that post as well and just shaking my head. I find it odd that “pros” that are already better at DFS than 99% of the population feel the need to collude against the average player to increase their edge even more. Like you said, much respect to the guys that actually do the work themselves as opposed to the guys waiting for one of their pro buddies to tell them which lineup to play tonight.

  • Agent47

    I know this is not news to anyone, but I just want to say I’m thankful that you can use RG to search for a DFS player’s username to find out who you’re up against. I was thinking of entering a $10 3-man league on DK today, but then I searched one of the 2 entrants that had already joined (“Daut44”) and wound up finding threads like this one where this clown basically brags about sharing lineups with his pro buddies. If I’m going to play a 3-man league, I want to play against 2 other individual people – not a cabal of DFS-pro buddies working together to increase their already significant edge against us regular people that don’t do this stuff for a living.

  • Mphst18

    Yes and notice the other 3 man where the entry is aboveandbeyond, that is the same as playing Daut44, lineups will be identical.

  • Agent47

    Yup, I see that as well. I like to use the opponent search feature on RG to avoid people like this, and this thread has also helped provide me with some additional names to look out for when I’m searching for contests to enter.

  • hammersticks84

    Same old nonsense. One of the main reasons why casual players and sports fans looking for some fun will almost never be able to win long term against nerds who work together and dedicate their lives to this. Also one of the reasons DFS could be in trouble moving forward. Sharks working together through social media and eating up all the casual fish who just want to play for fun. The fact that you cant even play $1 5050s and $2 3-man leagues without it being littered with all these same names is ridiculous.

  • hammersticks84

    @Agent47 said...

    I know this is not news to anyone, but I just want to say I’m thankful that you can use RG to search for a DFS player’s username to find out who you’re up against. I was thinking of entering a $10 3-man league on DK today, but then I searched one of the 2 entrants that had already joined (“Daut44”) and wound up finding threads like this one where this clown basically brags about sharing lineups with his pro buddies. If I’m going to play a 3-man league, I want to play against 2 other individual people – not a cabal of DFS-pro buddies working together to increase their already significant edge against us regular people that don’t do this stuff for a living.

    This. And to take it a step further these same people flood even the $1 and $2 games. And its not specific to one site. These same people cry and moan about the pending legality of this obviously sketchy business in this regard. Basically talking about sitting down at a low stakes poker game with Phil ivy and daniel negreanu and they are communicating via twitter the entire time.

  • srolleDFS

    @hammersticks84 said...

    One of the main reasons why casual players and sports fans looking for some fun will almost never be able to win long term against nerds who work together and dedicate their lives to this.

    this is true about every almost activity that exists. making music, designing spaceships, playing poker, picking stocks, collecting baseball cards, catching fish, flipping houses.

    if you want a hobby where everyone is equal regardless of how much work they put in, I would suggest you stick to watching television. it is the great leveler.

  • hammersticks84

    @srolleDFS said...

    this is true about every almost activity that exists. making music, designing spaceships, playing poker, picking stocks, collecting baseball cards, catching fish, flipping houses.

    if you want a hobby where everyone is equal regardless of how much work they put in, I would suggest you stick to watching television. it is the great leveler.

    We will all be watching tv together when this is entirely illegal in part because
    Of these people who collude and have turned this into a shady business. Maybe stay out of 1 and 2 dollar games at least. it is obvious that these select groups have determined that the casual players who have real lives generally play the cheap games for fun and therefore the easiest way to rake is by colluding and flooding these cheap games. This is no longer dfs nor a “game of skill” at this stage and simply a shady gambling business. Much like Wall Street the 1% have become too greedy for their own good and have begun to run this industry into the ground. Personally I don’t mind losing a few bucks a night for the enjoyment of the gambling (which it absolutely is) but in my home state i no longer can play and when I write local legislators on the matter even those who want to fight for it acknowledge that one of the main snags in passing anything to make it legal is this exact issue. You can’t try to market something as all fluffy fun game of skill and “not gambling” and then acknowledge that the top players who have advantages such as scripts are colluding to swallow up all the dead money in 1 and 2 dollar games. It smells and people aren’t stupid.

  • migarvin99

    I really like my lineup….so that means I’ll be cursing up a storm by 9 pm :)

  • Otherwize

    It also happen to me. Same two players Papa gates and chipotle cheater!!!

  • Nelson01

    @Otherwize said...

    It also happen to me. Same two players Papa gates and chipotle cheater!!!

    if i remember correctly they lost a ton of money last week in some high dollar tourneys on dk if that makes you feel better

  • Whacko

    There is no possible way to stop the sharing of Lineups.
    Let’s say a group of 5 players that are friends decide to work together, how can you possibly stop that kind of thing?

    If they pool their funds and/or work together on the LU construction and smartly enter specific contests that give them the edge, they could basically make profits that would go unnoticed.
    I never play in small contests for that reason alone, I always feel that multiple people could be colluding together…

    Now mind you I could be just overthinking the conspiracy aspect, however rumors of collusion do run rampant on the Internet.

    It is what it is….

    On a side note are we not all colluding when discussing anything on this forum?, All the sites out there give the information and share it among the masses, isn’t that a form of collusion?
    If a person subscribes to any site out there, technically they are sharing information.
    Twitter has boatloads of shady people out there wanting to sell LUs and such. Does this not break some sort of rule in DFS?
    All in all when money is involved people will do anything to be profitable.

  • X Unread Thread
  • X Thread with New Replies*
  • *Jumps to your first unread reply

Subforum Index

RotoGrinders.com is the home of the daily fantasy sports community. Our content, rankings, member blogs, promotions and forum discussion all cater to the players that like to create a new fantasy team every day of the week.

If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL). Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (NJ/WV/PA/MI), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (CO), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-888-532-3500 (VA) or call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN).