FanDuel Introduces New Player Designation System

FanDuel has announced that its experienced player indicators are going live today, with beginner-only games launching Thursday, moves that will bring the company into compliance with two of the regulations operators are expected to meet by July 1 to continue operating in Massachusetts and a handful of other states.

Though only mandated in certain jurisdictions, the changes will be global.

DraftKings also recently implemented its experienced player designations, using a five-tiered system starting at 500 contests. FanDuel’s system consists of two levels: Experienced and Highly Experienced. Players who have participated in more than 500 contests or won $2,500 across six or more contests will be labeled as Experienced. Players who have participated in more than 1,000 contests or won $1,000 or more in four or more contests will earn the Highly Experienced designation, a definition that has been spelled out in in the Massachusetts regulations and in recent legislation.

“We are continuously working on new ways to enhance our product to suit any user, whether they have been playing on FanDuel for one day or one year,” FanDuel co-founder Tom Griffiths said in a news release. “Our users absolutely love our product and today’s rollout is to help ensure all users of all levels have the best experience possible on our platform.”

While there’s little controversy surrounding the concept of beginner-only games, the same can’t be said for experienced player indicators.

Originally conceived as a way to help shield newer players from the industry’s so-called sharks, it’s an idea that has gained steam among legislators since being introduced late last year as part of Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey’s proposed regulations for DFS. Those recommendations were finalized in March, and other states have pulled some of the same concepts when drafting legislation. Most recently, the bill passed in the New York legislature includes a requirement that sites identify “highly experienced” players using identical language to that seen in the Massachusetts regulations.

The issue, as some see it, is that the definitions are too broad, and instead of protecting new players it actually highlights their presence. For example, judging by the head-to-head lobbies and tournament entry lists on DraftKings since the implementation of its experienced player badge system, it’s clear that the wide majority of regular DFS players fall under some category of experienced player, and most qualify as highly experienced. So when an inexperienced player posts a head-to-head game, the lack of an experienced player badge serves as a target, signifying to other players a better chance at a win.

“I think in theory, identifying players who are experienced is, in theory, good,” RotoGrinders Daily Fantasy Fix podcast host Dan Back said on his June 1 episode. “But the problem that we’re running into, and it’s certainly rearing its head here in baseball, is that if you go to a head-to-head lobby now and you look at the class designation and the experience badges of everyone in the head-to-heads, just about every single one of those players are experienced. And basically what happens is, the moment somebody who’s not an experienced player posts a game, they’re the ones who stand out. It’s exposing the new players. Who do you think is going to be targeted?

“…Overall the regulation isn’t working. It’s not solving anything. It’s basically the same as it’s always been, and it’s just exposing these new players.”

New players will have some options, as FanDuel now joins the ranks of operators who are offering contests strictly for beginners. On FanDuel, those games will be limited to players, both new and previously registered, who have entered less than 51 contests.

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Comments

  • KillaChap

    I like it. I like it a lot.

  • Ernestbrown

    A lot of us players been playing for a couple of years and are still beginners. I lost 10 times the amount that I won, so will that still make me a experience player. It’s a start but still needs work. Guys on here win regularly with a algorithm. I lose 80 percent of the time and that’s with doing my research. My manually research will never help me when im going up against algorithms.

  • Dpert002

    Yea I like the idea but I am not sure about the implementation here. I have been playing DFS for about 5 years but I suck. So this worries me that I will probably be tagged as highly experienced and drive less experienced dfs’ers away from playing against me. Where as they should actually want to play against me.
    This needs to be based on money won and money won ONLY.

  • JesseCandela22

    I wish they would go based on bankroll and amount played not this system… Has me at Highly Experienced… Fine but I play no more then 5 dollars a night and have a -5% roi so not sure how I can be in the same class as some of the best?

  • txdave41

    @Ernestbrown said...

    A lot of us players been playing for a couple of years and are still beginners. I lost 10 times the amount that I won, so will that still make me a experience player. It’s a start but still needs work. Guys on here win regularly with a algorithm. I lose 80 percent of the time and that’s with doing my research. My manually research will never help me when im going up against algorithms.

    I have the same experience. I’m listed as experienced and I am horrible at MLB DFS even though I put the work and research in. Sharks have completely ruined H2H lobby. I’ve been looking up their rankings and the vast majority are ranked in the top 1000 players. If I host, they jump on me immediately.

    A fair system would be to have a lobby of players who have the same type of win/loss records. A newbie shouldn’t have to go against a pro to enjoy H2H or league games.

  • bigchrislip

    It should b more like Draft Kings. Ive noticed that you have to have won a certain amount in a given contest. To me, how much you play doesnt coincide with the level of your play. I could go out and play baseball everyday but Im never gonna b in the majors. Also, with the amount of players that participate in DFS, having only three ranks is doing the bare minimum to comply with the law. NEEDS WORK…AND A LOT OF IT!!!!!

  • bhdevault

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    Hey guys, just a heads up. There is a thread on the main page that you may want to bring your discussion into that can be found here: https://rotogrinders.com/threads/fanduel-implementing-experience-badges-beginner-games-1348365

    I already see some valid points and FD reps MAY be more likely to see it on the forum rather than in this comment section.

  • Dpert002

    Thanks bhdevault

  • ShermanStorm

    agreed! for sure 100% based on how much profit/money won!

  • nta87

  • SirChosen

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    Yeah based on profit. My ROI is positive on DK but a huge negative on FD. But I am highly experienced in FD,

  • RSno9

    How about have a system where millionaires like CSURAM can’t play $5 and under games.

  • bigchrislip

    Yeah, let the sharks eat each other!!!

  • jeramy576

    Completely agree, guys like him and chipotleaddict and his lineup partner papagates shouldn’t be allowed to each throw out 50 lineups in a guarantee $2 double up. I’m finding it nearly impossible to dodge these guys in anything, but the lowest of the low.

  • Bruinsfan79

    A big problem is that it actually puts a bullseye on the beginners now and let’s everyone know who they are. The sharks are going to jump all over them whenever possible.
    Another advantage given to sharks who are already sharing lineups with eachother.

  • joecrash95

    great great great news..I put many hours daily and a lot of my money into dfs and I know people will say stop crying but I was losing interest because I’m tired of seeing the same guys place 1 thru 10 every night…I think more single entry,high prize contests would help also

  • wwhis

    reference: CSURAM ,chipotleaddict,papagates . I see them I don’t play. In fact I avoid multi entry games. There should be a limit on the % of entries that can be multi entry leaving room fo rsingle entry players. It is possible to have the 4 th best score and finish 601st.
    I have been playing less than a year but I saw the prospect of a semi – scam early on. The sites have to have enough entries to offer attractive prizes but the customer base is not large enough to do that w/o the multi entry. A perfect set – up for predator’s with access to tons of info to feast on the unaware hunting for the million.
    Player designation system: basically worthless unless winnings based. Plus on Draftkings it is so small I can’t make it out.
    I detest government intervention into private enterprise however if the sites keep advertising unrealistic rewards to bring food for the sharkes it has to be regulated.
    It is sad it has taken so long and so many have left because of the inequities. Many have reduced dollars in play and every single person I have talked to about playing that does not play thinks it is an activity for suckers.

  • sochoice

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2017 FanDuel WFFC Champion

    Wait, you mean a business makes a change based on a poorly thought out regulatory recommendation and it doesn’t work? Shocking…..

  • scorer79

    Agreed. It needs to be volume and total winnings-based. I’ve seen guys that only play $1-$2 cash games but are on there every day.

  • jbank727

    The solution is more simple than they are making it in my opinion. If I were to go the MGM Grand in Vegas, I will not go to $10k $20k poker table and run into Phil Ivy. I am looking to play against people of similar skill set. Rank players by overall profits not by money won. Any player with over $5000 profit is an experienced player. Anything under that is a beginner. Allow beginner cash games and GPP’S. I am tired of seeing Saahil in my $5 50/50 games

  • jmeholick

    This ranking is ridiculous. I am an experienced player and I suck at DFS. I am experienced because of how many lineups I have entered. My brother has been a far more successful DFS player than me and he is ranked as inexperienced. A ranking should be based on profits and losses not how much one plays.

  • depalma13

    Multi entry tournaments are not a problem.

    The biggest problem with DFS is Puppet Accounts and collusion.

    There is a big difference between people sharing information and sharing identical lineups to violate the one entry per tournament rule.

    The sites could fix this today. They know the offenders.

    But both DK and FD refuse to address this issue, so it will be addressed eventually by government.

    When it happens, it is going to be ugly. The fines will be heavy and the lawsuits will be numerous.

  • lastplace

    I guess it’s a good start, but I’ve been playing dfs for over a year and a half and fanduel considers me highly experienced but I’ve never won more than $25 on any tournament. I’m certainly no shark and can’t afford to play hundreds or thousands of lineups. They need to identify the sharks from the average players.

  • Frasig80

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    No thats lame. ive won many large pots as an average player but ive lost a hell of a lot too. Yes I may make money but I dont script or anything. I enter 10 lineups and would say I take advantage of max and birdwings 500 lineups and as far as scripting who cares chances our we werent foing to finish in the top ten that night anyways. You can look at it this way… For every person who does 500 lineups 490 of them are crap. Therefore making it easier for the average guy to get paid out. Ever notice that the cash lines are higher is single entry than it is in multi entry its because most of the script lineups are junk. Do we really want to limit how many lineups we can put in. Were the max prize is $500 how do people think the prize pools get so high. Its why single entry gpp are small payouts. Badging is a joke cause it makes 75% of us the same experience level as the top 1%

  • nuckfuggets

    @Frasig80 said...

    No thats lame. ive won many large pots as an average player but ive lost a hell of a lot too. Yes I may make money but I dont script or anything. I enter 10 lineups and would say I take advantage of max and birdwings 500 lineups and as far as scripting who cares chances our we werent foing to finish in the top ten that night anyways. You can look at it this way… For every person who does 500 lineups 490 of them are crap. Therefore making it easier for the average guy to get paid out. Ever notice that the cash lines are higher is single entry than it is in multi entry its because most of the script lineups are junk. Do we really want to limit how many lineups we can put in. Were the max prize is $500 how do people think the prize pools get so high. Its why single entry gpp are small payouts. Badging is a joke cause it makes 75% of us the same experience level as the top 1%

    I don’t think that’s accurate. Most of the time these guys have a core lineup and if that core lineup goes off, majority of their lineups are cashing. Sure if they have an off night, it’s great but to say it makes it easier to cash… I don’t believe that’s an accurate statement. It just makes it that much harder to win a GPP because they have more options to help cover the variance.

    I do agree that this badge system is dumb. It doesn’t do anything but place targets on those playing 50/50 or H2H’s. Highly Experienced is too low of a level to achieve.

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